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#51 VuoriDevine

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:09 PM

I'm confused if I understand correctly. PH came from their server that was closed and were not allowed to bring items money or characters, but Sea server people are being allowed to do this. ????

PH never had a server.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:11 PM

PH never had a server.

 

Ah ok thanks for clarifying.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:11 PM

I'm confused if I understand correctly. PH came from their server that was closed and were not allowed to bring items money or characters, but Sea server people are being allowed to do this. ????

 

Lol PH server is actually canceled...

 

Well SEA players are well you can guess, if you think a full equip +20 person is insane, they got like FE +20 Seed+50% STR/INT+10 rune. If these things wiped out oh yeah imagine the money loss because of their quitting...


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:13 PM

let them keep all their stuff i heard they have op 50 seed runes and op green seeds. game will be balanced finally now that 1 certain guild doesn't only have them l0l


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:15 PM

I'm confused if I understand correctly. PH came from their server that was closed and were not allowed to bring items money or characters, but Sea server people are being allowed to do this. ????

 

PH never had its own server. I recently checked and: both WP and SEA (Playpark) opened to PH players during 2014. PH players officially started last month.

 

SEA, however, is migrating over with everything but KP intact. SEA server contains PH players too, tho. 


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:27 PM

let them keep all their stuff i heard they have op 50 seed runes~

Or they could go the other way.

 

Flowing zeny out of their pocket, but also making everyone to greed over zeny. It is a pushover for newbies. This is also how their economy started to become like this over there, back when Playpark merging the servers.

 

It could happen...


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:29 PM

100m+ alone from a player in SEA, lol gg.

all top tier pets Max 4/4 ^_____________^

 


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:31 PM

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My reaction to all this.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:33 PM

Some random conversation:

 

NA player: I got a 40% power seed rune and 2 50% blue seed runes.

SEA player: i got 4 weapons with 40% power seed and 2 full sets with 50% blue/red seed runes

 

NA player: I got 10 millions zeny in total.

SEA player: i got 10 millions zeny just on my alt. 90kk+- zeny in total.

 

NA player: i got Willow worker pet lvl 4

SEA player: i got Ramort lvl 4, Maya Purple lvl 4 and RSX-0807 lvl 4 pets.

 

 

NA player: We're 20-40 members active on my guild.

SEA player. We're 90 members active 24/7 on here.

 

 

I'll bring Popcorns, cause this S**T is REAL.

 

 

Kick up the storm boyzzzzzzz.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:34 PM

Or they could go the other way.

 

Flowing zeny out of their pocket, but also making everyone to greed over zeny. It is a pushover for newbies. This is also how their economy started to become like this over there, back when Playpark merging the servers.

 

It could happen...

 

 

Merging both SEA servers were fine as both servers opened at the same time. But merging 2

companies is a different story. 


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:35 PM

:sob: OTL


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:35 PM

Some random conversation:

 

NA player: I got a 40% power seed rune and 2 50% blue seed runes.

SEA player: i got 4 weapons with 40% power seed and 2 full sets with 50% blue/red seed runes

 

NA player: I got 10 millions zeny in total.

SEA player: i got 10 millions zeny just on my alt. 90kk+- zeny in total.

 

NA player: i got Willow worker pet lvl 4

SEA player: i got Ramort lvl 4, Maya Purple lvl 4 and RSX-0807 lvl 4 pets.

 

 

NA player: We're 20-40 members active on my guild.

SEA player. We're 90 members active 24/7 on here.

 

 

I'll bring Popcorns, cause this S**T is REAL.

 

 

Kick up the storm boyzzzzzzz.

 

 

WoE Will be interesting... one sided -_- fest...


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:35 PM

not bad got more player.....

 

But please dont transfer the zeny from that server into here..... 

at SEA got many player with zeny of 8m+++...  :p_swt:  :p_swt:  :p_swt:  :p_swt:


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:38 PM

My char in NA only have 1k zeny. Sad life.

 

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Logging in to old account, looking for friends.. and time to beg for some zeny...


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:41 PM

Logging in to old account, looking for friends.. and time to beg for some zeny...

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:41 PM

Lf Sea account so I can buy 5 vips get 10mz then transfer it here and give it to myself :D


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:44 PM

Genius

Despite of me been playing in NA, I still got quite a number of friends that still actively playing in SEA server. Some of them were my ex-guildmate that I collect when I founded it during the early stage of the servers. How much fortune do they have is something that I don't know lol... So.... yeah, put in beggar's clothes now and logging in....

 

or maybe after I got back from the office XD


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:48 PM

Lf Sea account so I can buy 5 vips get 10mz then transfer it here and give it to myself :D

 

Good day Sir, i hoarded those Anniversary VIP's i'll wait for the SEA players now. gg

 

Time to hoard all these perma costumes before it's too late, economy is going to hell.
 


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:49 PM

Good day Sir, i hoarded those Anniversary VIP's i'll wait for the SEA players now. gg

 

Time to hoard all these perma costumes before it's too late, economy is going to hell.
 

 

Way ahead of you bro 500 infin bunch of costumes 2 years of vip etc etc. IT'S TIME TO BE A RICH BOY

 

Still wondering if I should waste my zenny or wait a bit.

 

*waits for brace yourselves sea server is coming GoT Gif....

 

Edit: If any1 is on sea atm can u get infin, bless, fusing items prices plssplsplsplsplspls I luff yewww long timeee

 

 

 

SPECIAL THANKS TO FLUKE

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:58 PM

Wtf Why do you even need more money, Baddiez? Some more and you'll own the entire server!

 

Oh wait.......................inb4 BaddiezRO2 pserver! Bring back LoTS pls :v


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:59 PM

Wtf Why do you even need more money, Baddiez? Some more and you'll own the entire server!

 

Oh wait.......................inb4 BaddiezRO2 pserver! Bring back LoTS pls :v

 

I'm poor sir can I please have some Zenny. I'm noob just started no know how to make zenny. Please help nooby.


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:16 PM

Q. What will move over to the Odin server with my character?

As far as what you can bring with you, you’ll be able to bring all your zeny and items with your characters (which will remain as they were, levels included).
However, make sure to spend your Kafra Points prior to the server closing, as the points are NOT transferrable and you won’t be compensated for Kafra Points that remain unspent on your previous account.

 

I'm sorry did I read that correctly?

 

...you’ll be able to bring all your zeny and items with your characters

...you’ll be able to bring all your zeny and items
...all your zeny

 

In case it isn't plainly obvious that the economy on the two servers is incomparable, here are some numbers

  • The average SEA server player has 2-5 million zeny, compare this to the 20-50k that Odin players have (this is an ESTIMATE of the AVERAGE). This is a 100x difference in average zeny. Even if this number is somewhat off there is still at least a several dozen fold difference
  • So a 7 day VIP worth under 5k here is 2 million on SEA... I'm sorry that seems to be a 400x difference in price of a VIP. Or did you mean a 30 day one? In which case it's down to just 100x again.
  • The KP to zeny ratio used in SEA for trading is 150kp:100k zeny. A 1:666 ratio, compared to our 1:40. This is a 17x difference in worth of KP
  • Now lets look at our Auction House (AH). There are currently 31178 postings of items for sale (at the time of writing). I added the prices of the first 100 and last 100 postings in the AH, to find that the average posting (excluding 4 items over 200k) costs 2971 zeny. In this sample only 2% of AH items were over 200k, let's expand this to 5% just to be certain. Now, that means that the other 95% of our AH items totals to being worth 87,998,346. So about 88 million zeny. Using the 100x difference in zeny rate, this comes to the equivalent of 880k (88mil/100=880k). Imagine buying 95% of the Auction house for the equivalent of 880k... that's less than an OCU. Now let's convert the 88 million to KP, at the 1:666 ratio, this is 132000KP, or 1320$ without bonuses. Since conversions of over 10k kp have a 20% bonus, and your first conversion of the month has a 5% bonus. 132000 KP is actually only 1056. Imagine buying 95% of the Auction house for 1000$. Clearly that's not what 95% of our ENTIRE market is worth!

Let me reiterate that in big bright red letters

 

On SEA server players have 100x more zeny, pay 400x more for a VIP and their KP is worth 17x more than ours. If you're one of the first SEA players to move here you can buyout 95% of our AH with the equivalent of 880k or with 1000$

 

What can be done?

  • Simple, apply a conversion ratio as SEA players enter Odin server. Here, I'll even outline how it can be done!
    • Count the number of players on SEA who have been active in the past 3 months (let number of players = n)
    • Sum their zeny (let the sum = s)
    • Divide n by s (n/s=a, the average active player's zeny)
    • Compare "a of SEA" with "a of ODIN" (a_SEA / a_ODIN = r, the ratio)
    • Use this as an exchange rate (SEAZeny/r = ODINZeny)
  • If you really can't modify the SEA server player's zeny without dire repercussions worse than potentially losing all profit from current ODIN players... Simple apply a conversion ratio to OUR zeny. Multiply everything by 17 or by 100 or by whatever equilibrates the average player's zeny for players on both servers. (ODINZeny*r=NewODINZeny)

 

Edit: Other possible solutions

  • Don't transfer zeny (so simple I forgot to mention it!)
  • Make events or change our item RNG ratios to make it possible for Odin players to receive some of the items that SEA has (ex: 50% blues)

 

I am somewhat sorry if I sound condescending, but wait... somehow the people responsible for the merger failed to notice the 100(s) fold difference in currency worth!

 

Disclaimer: The numbers may not be perfectly accurate because I do not know the actual average zeny on either server, so I can only estimate. And only a 200 posting sample was used for the AH average, so this is only an approximate of the worth of items in AH not their actual average worth.

 

I'm sure WP can find the actual numbers fairly easily with access to the databases for the game, and rather curious what they are. Regardless, this should give people an idea of what order of magnitude we are talking about.


Edited by Tianciel, 11 September 2014 - 07:58 AM.

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:21 PM

If I read it right, I think they'll only migrate you if you process an application, so that may play into the formula a bit. I just hate that this shows an easy opening for selling KP items to get zeny. I do hope that the income from that is the justification behind their decision. :0


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:24 PM

LOL.  If we would have placed contingency for this months ago like I suggested, we wouldn't be having problems like this. 


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