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#1 1131131129203649980

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 10:53 AM

Hi everyone, have been playing a while and want to know how refinement works, would like to know what are all the items i could use for refine and improvement also the success rates and everything you have to know like if equipment breaks or anything.

all i find is out dated.

 

would love your help

 

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#2 Arbalist

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 02:13 PM

Refine can be accessed by going to Menu or via player shops.

Stones that can be used for refining (only one can be used at a time):
Polinium - Quests, Pandora Boxes, Hourly Attendance box, etc.
Pure Polinium - Dapara (Master Point Merchant in Morroc)
Lucky Powder - Ranking Rewards (6-10), Daily Attendance, Events
Blessing Powder - Phantom Pyramid minigame, Events

The upper limit of refinement is currently +20. Refining can break at any level without infinium, except from +0 to +1. Stone for protecting is called Infinium. Before +10, any failures using infinium can reset to +0 (I think) will reduce by 1 level. After +10, any failures while using infinium can result in item resetting to +10. Nobody knows the real chances, but they are incredibly low most of the time and getting from +0 to +10 seems to be harder than getting from +10 to +20.

Players who achieved refining ranking can receive a back accessory that improves refining rates by a certain percentage. Other players can access this benefit by going to ranking player's shops. Gold ranking is better than Silver ranking in terms of the bonus. These Gold and Silver bonuses add a small chance to let you skip levels ie. using a Blessing Powder which normally does +1 more can have a chance to go +2.

Weapons can glow starting from +6. Armors don't glow.

I think that's all, but I could've missed some. 


Edited by Arbalist, 21 November 2014 - 02:36 PM.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 07:31 PM

The upper limit of refinement is currently +20. Refining can break at any level without infinium, even from +0 to +1. Stone for protecting is called Infinium. Before +10, any failures using infinium can reset to +0 (I think). After +10, any failures while using infinium can result in item reseting to +10. Nobody knows the real chances, but they are incredibly low most of the time.

Players who achieved refining ranking can receive a back accessory that improves refining rates by a certain percentage. Other players can access this benefit by going to ranking player's shops. Gold ranking is better than Silver ranking in terms of the bonus. These Gold and Silver bonuses add a small chance to let you skip levels ie. using a Blessing Powder which normally does +1 more can have a chance to go +2.

Weapons can glow starting from +6. Armors don't glow.

I think that's all, but I could've missed some. 

-refining to +1 is actually a 100% chance of success so its not necessary to use Infinium to get refine to +1

 

-any failures below +10 can reduce your refinement by 1, not resetting it to 0

 

-reaching +10 is the more difficult compared to 10->20 

 

*Former CM Zanbee wrote a guide on refining
 *don't forget to activate the khara(s) for refining if you want to complete it*


Edited by FishDeity, 07 October 2014 - 09:13 PM.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 07:38 PM

So if i use Lucky Powder to skip +1 to get +2 or +3.. would that mean there's a chance for my weapon to be destroyed?


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 07:56 PM

So if i use Lucky Powder to skip +1 to get +2 or +3.. would that mean there's a chance for my weapon to be destroyed?

no


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 09:22 PM

^ Interesting.


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 09:49 PM

So if i use Lucky Powder to skip +1 to get +2 or +3.. would that mean there's a chance for my weapon to be destroyed?

 

not as long as you protect your wep with infinium


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:55 AM

Agree with FishDeity , the first refine/upgrade is 100%, no need infinium, use polinium or lucky powder. 


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 01:00 AM

No problem, I'm probably wrong. Never bother with gambling on this system anyways. I always use immediate refine stones to skip those levels so I wouldn't know. Will edit my post :P


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 08:57 AM

for some reason i always feel like 1-10 was harder then 10-20. PRobably might be just me but those +10 refine tokens make this so much easier.
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Posted 07 October 2014 - 09:23 AM

Had a +7 armor.
Had 25 Blessing powders and 25 infiniums.

After using all the powders and infinium, my armor still +7.

*insert thumbs up gif*

Working as intended.

Note: I literally went berserk that day.

Edited by jhay1825, 07 October 2014 - 09:23 AM.

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 09:52 AM

nah, the other days i refined my spear 14 infiniums to refine +10 to +14 -_- . I was so, oh yeah !!


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 09:56 AM

Getting to +10 is the hard part. Always use those +10 immediate refine stones, these may be expensive but save your self from the stress of your armor/weapon going up and down before it reaches +10.

During that time, +10 refine stones didnt exist yet. I sent a ticket and they told me it was working as intended. :U
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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:01 PM

wow, thx you all for the answers 

 

just some things i dont have totally clear

 

1.- lucky powder destroy the items or not?

2.- can you use blessing powder and infinium at the same time?

3.- +X immediate refine stones fail? in that case, can i use infinium with them?

 

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:08 PM

1. Yes, all 4 stones have a chance to destroy items, unless you use infinium
2. Yes you can use any 1 stone + infinium at the same time, or just 1 stone by itself without infinium. Cannot use infinium by itself or more than 1 stone at a time.
3. They don't fail, you don't need to (and can't) use infinium for them


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 09:57 AM

Thx you so much for the answer!


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 03:20 AM

so does anyone know whats the percentage of +1-+10? 


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Posted 20 August 2015 - 04:18 AM

so does anyone know whats the percentage of +1-+10?

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