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#451 MisterWrong

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 12:08 AM

Recently I noticed a guy using a orcish axe or something as a dual weld weapon, anyone tested it?
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 12:13 AM

Ermm, using axes is a really bad idea. Reason is that firstly, axes have the worst aspd mod of the GX-equippable weapons. Secondly, there are only 2 axes that can be used, both of which are subpar. Plus, there's just no bonus to using an axe besides the size mod, but even then it just isn't worth it...

I guess you could dual axe as a joke build, but that's about it? Sword + dagger sounds way more viable at least.
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 12:15 AM

Give it time, when we get enough ASPD gear to reach 193 with any weapon, there will be a dual axe auto-cast crit build or some other nonsense. 

 

Orcish axes are too weak to be used as a main hand weapon, and serves no real purpose as an offhand weapon. 

 

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#454 ShinKokuryuu

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 12:28 AM

Well it feels like gravity forgot GXes can equip axes. If they came up with some really good 1h axe, I might actually consider it, but they haven't made any new axes for gxes in ages...
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 01:50 PM

Get a windhawk. 5% aspd. Woooooo. 


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Posted 16 August 2015 - 04:26 PM

Atk is subpar and level 3 weapon though, pretty horrible. Also no slots >_>;
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Posted 17 August 2015 - 06:29 AM

Recently I noticed a guy using a orcish axe or something as a dual weld weapon, anyone tested it?

Maybe this guy saw the jRO Counterslash video and thought he can do the same lol. Guy is using a Dofle Axe though.


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#458 MisterWrong

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 05:55 AM

I did, it was really something to look at. We can always come up with ideas. I thought about the down side of axe is being slow, and I also noticed main handhas the element mod, maybe holding a left hand axe wont change anything withsize penalty.
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Posted 27 August 2015 - 01:01 AM

Ermm, using axes is a really bad idea. Reason is that firstly, axes have the worst aspd mod of the GX-equippable weapons. Secondly, there are only 2 axes that can be used, both of which are subpar. Plus, there's just no bonus to using an axe besides the size mod, but even then it just isn't worth it...

I guess you could dual axe as a joke build, but that's about it? Sword + dagger sounds way more viable at least.

haha after a couple year someone will make a new guide maybe for dual axe and everybody yeaaaa lets do dual axe 


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 08:54 AM

Hi everyone. Recently i saw a SC with 2 Soheon cards in +14 FQL. Can be reasonable to use the +14 sandstorm[4](MG, orcish axe, etc) with 4 soheon(+8 aspd) for redistributive large amout of stat points from agi to luk/dex?


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 09:20 AM

Possible, yes, reasonable not really. You could never really make up the damage from missing 2-3 racials % mods with stats. 


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 09:46 AM

Hi everyone. Recently i saw a SC with 2 Soheon cards in +14 FQL. Can be reasonable to use the +14 sandstorm[4](MG, orcish axe, etc) with 4 soheon(+8 aspd) for redistributive large amout of stat points from agi to luk/dex?

 

Soheon Card -_- Dagger Only, no Axe no Etc


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Posted 29 August 2015 - 08:38 AM

What card would you all put in the Hero Thief armor

This is its stats

 

 

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 10:43 AM

Each of the elementals, marc, cornutus. Wouldnt put an mvp like amdarais in there unless i have so much money that i cant hold anymore.
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Posted 29 August 2015 - 11:35 PM

how much is that god forbidden card holy moly that %


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Posted 30 August 2015 - 01:11 AM

how much is that god forbidden card holy moly that %

 

amaradais? 5b or something i heard

 

but its only generically useful, cos you have alternatives like gloom and ktull to use
 


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Posted 30 August 2015 - 07:10 AM

amaradais? 5b or something i heard

 

but its only generically useful, cos you have alternatives like gloom and ktull to use
 

genercally? meaning i would use this card more than ktull and gloom?


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 09:42 PM

Also if this is ur base gear I assume tao would be best in it I assume unless amadramous is best hmm
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 10:24 PM

HP improving gears comes at the expense of damage.

Increase damage e.g ktull or gloom means you can get statused e.g. frozen

Quite a few bosses can kill a GX real quick. So unless you can summon up DPS like a MoT weapon +/- LK card yadda yadda, then being able to survive >>> damage output.

If it's a MVP competition, depends on the skill of the competition and the first hit.

 

Therefore I would rank Tao above Amadarais, which is a measely 15% attack at the expense of HP, and survivability (also factor in Gloom gives added compounded damage depending on mvp). This is reflected in its price.

 

 


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 11:25 PM

So as a default gear ur saying tao is mainly the one to get for the hiddin armor


To be honest I'd also like to see a vid of a katar base mvp fight with a lk card and not wrapon. It may not be as fancy as dd crit but I'd still like to see the damage

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 12:02 AM

So as a default gear ur saying tao is mainly the one to get for the hiddin armor


To be honest I'd also like to see a vid of a katar base mvp fight with a lk card and not wrapon. It may not be as fancy as dd crit but I'd still like to see the damage

 

Damage will be substantially lower than DD Crit due to damage modifiers with card stacks.

 

I'm not sure who has LK atm who has bothered to 175 a pure katar crit build when he's already got an DD crit MVP build.

 

Not saying its not good, just not as strong. Highest possible damage is with MoT on Gullotine Katar with max FS enchants, but thats if MVP is not demi human.

 

For the average citizen, DD Crit > Crit Katar for MVP

 

For ppl with insane quips, DD Crit pwns Crit Katar


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Posted 10 September 2015 - 12:26 AM

Katar can only compete if you using skills ctrl click severly lacking compared to dd crit and even that would go so far..


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Posted 10 September 2015 - 08:04 AM

Id still want to see the numbers tho. will it be 10k less, 100k less, 5k less,

 

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 09:10 AM

ok from yugacky post awhile back in this thread of the ideal 7 card setup for dd crit giving 343% dmg then you need to figure how much a katar crit is getting out of MOT(at the best) and their advanced katar mastery and w/e effects it got I'm guessing


Edited by YangeWenli, 10 September 2015 - 09:12 AM.

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 09:16 AM

Imagine your highest Crit Katar damage.

 

Double it.

 

That's LK pretty much.


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