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#1001 NormalPeople

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 02:26 AM

1000 replies now
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#1002 Chally

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 02:58 AM

is it possible to hit 193 aspd w/o bako tats or any aspd accessories planning to put rental megs for accessories 


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:17 AM

Yeah, but you may end up sacrificing more damage from other sources /shrug (garment, headgear, etc.)


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:23 AM

You would need havenn's dagger to not lose on dmg too much.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:21 AM

well im planning on putting carrying two megs. would the trade off be good? and for headgear i pressume +13IRE for FAW mhmm not quite sure on this the cenere card? 


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:41 AM

The damage you gain from Eddga proc or Petal card is greater than 2 megs give you.
It's only advisable to use meg on GX if you can benefit from the 120 str effect.

Edited by Ashuckel, 06 January 2017 - 11:42 AM.

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 02:26 AM

Hi

 

I ready this topic

 

https://forums.warpp...pon-evaluation/

 

that mean Crimson weapon is better than FQL ?

 

 


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Posted 29 January 2017 - 05:37 AM

I have a question which has been bugging me for awhile now

My offhand for now is Soheon 2AK [clean] Sandstorm,

 

I don't know which will be better for the maximum atk between the two:

 

Abysmal Knight Card and Turtle General Card,

If I understood it right, both are the same kind of modifier with 25% for AK (only for boss) and 20% from TG..

 

Considering the additional 20% damage increase of Magnum Break, is it worthit? planning to only use WK for my mainhand in the future btw


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Posted 29 January 2017 - 07:05 AM

Depends on the mob element, fire/holy/shadow mobs will take reduced dmg from the bonus(as the bonus is fire property) or even nulify it. For the rest you will notice some increase. But not really for the damage, the MB proc is great for cleaning MvP mobs and letting u 1v1 it.


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Posted 29 January 2017 - 01:53 PM

Oh, i thought it was plain increase in atk, the knockback effect seems real good so that flee wont get reduced by mobs too much, thanks
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 05:58 AM

The damage you gain from Eddga proc or Petal card is greater than 2 megs give you.
It's only advisable to use meg on GX if you can benefit from the 120 str effect.

what you mean by 'benefit from 120 str effect'? what effect?


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:04 AM

Read the megingjard description
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:28 AM

Apparently the word going around the forums is that kRO changed double attack to allow crits now. So I guess that leaves us with a new question - how much longer will this build remain viable on iRO? That is to say purposely changing at j42 as a high thief to avoid getting DA.

The fix on kRO came alongside the fix to bowling bash gutter lines and the position bug fix. When Astra was asked if this fix would come to iRO her answer was yes but she did not give a time frame for it (as far as I know). Does anyone know when we can realistically expect this update? And if it's any time soon wouldn't that render this particular skill build obsolete?
 


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:37 AM

All you need to do is reset the skills, lower steal and hide lvls and get Double Attack, the gears are the same. And no, no eta
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:47 AM

losing a bit of envenom or hide won't destroy you


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:56 AM

Ah right I forgot about resetting and moving points from other 1st class skills. I guess I shouldn't be asking these kinds of questions at 5 AM on no sleep :P

It's kinda silly because I deleted my old 150 GX that was a j50 thief with DA to free a slot for a new one to change at j42 only to find out a few days later about the kRO change. But I assume we wont have the update for 6+ months so I don't feel so bad anymore.


Edited by trljason, 11 March 2017 - 03:59 AM.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 04:01 AM

losing a bit of envenom or hide won't destroy you

Envenom will
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:14 AM

there are always other option  :heh:

 

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on a side note, will double vadon double peco egg fare better against vadon minorous double peco egg? (against ifrit)

 

...I kinda forgot how it's done sorry  :p_sad:

 


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:33 AM

Same types are summed, different are multiplied
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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:55 AM

copy that xD thanks


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:43 PM

i have 3 valkyrie knifes, do you think it's worth it to card one with four aunoe and +9 it or whatever

or should i just sell them and buy a liberation ice pick

 

i have the patience to wait for whatever, just wondering if the +9 valk knife with aunoe is a good idea


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:45 PM

If you're going crit, you absolutely should not use 4x Aunoe either way. 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 10:45 PM

ok


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 11:39 PM

Is the assassin's despair (probably with gold scarab for damage) a good more cost-effective alternative for bako tats? I have no idea how much is the difference between a +1 aspd and +10% in most of the cases.

 

Update/edit:
I've tried the iRO stat calc (http://calc.irowiki.org/)

If it's accurate, 10% aspd is almost the same as +1 aspd. 

 

Additional question, what bosses/circumstances require you to have more than 100 crit? Using the calc, I'm having problems reaching both 193 aspd and 110~120 crit without using sapha armor with sharp/crit enchants or ice pick with sharp enchants. 

 

Also, is weihna any good? I've seen somebody on youtube using it.


Edited by mikkotinamide, 30 April 2017 - 12:48 AM.

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 04:53 PM

I am seriously confused on what skills to level, kind of noob here if this was my ultimate goal what skills as thief should I level?

Also why cap high thief at level 42?

 

Confused please help


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