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#1026 Ashuckel

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 05:00 PM

As thief, anything as long as you don't get Double Attack.

job 42 because Thief has too few skills to distribute the points, and you are forced to distribute everything when job changing, so if you get higher job lvl, you'll be forced to grab Double Attack


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Posted 08 May 2017 - 06:51 PM

Should I not go past job level 42 as thief and high thief? or is it just as high thief?


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Posted 08 May 2017 - 06:58 PM

just high thief


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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:08 PM

Thank you good sir!


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 12:27 PM

Job 42 for high thief so you will not get double attack skill which interferes with your crits.

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Ninjad... :/

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 04:23 AM

Is Drake card a Must have with pure DD Crit GX, or do crimson weapons + white knight cards (do you have these btw ?) make it obsolete ?

 

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 04:27 AM

Not a must have, but that option doesnt make anything obsolete either, is just an option. And no we dont have WK yet.
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Posted 14 May 2017 - 09:11 PM

just high thief

 

So if say hypothetically I did change at job level 50, does that mean I need to make another GX character?


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 12:24 AM

If you want to make a pure DD crit that deals MAX damage, then YES!

 

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 04:59 AM

i have like 800 mill to invest

for dd daggers are u guys thinkin

im thinkin a +7 double lib faceWorm Queen leg for 300

is that good?

 

also what i have +9 raydrid hbp, +9ridewood and like a rogue's treasure

 


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:19 AM

I am at that time when I should choose if I go lvl 42 job or lvl 50 job as high thief. Should I just get double attack expecting the crit update to come or should I just stick with the 42 job?


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:21 AM

You can get double attack and still be job 42, just leave Hide and Steal at level 5 each. Then, if you need to skill reset to be without double attack, you can put the 10 points into those two skills or move them back if/when we get the crit update. 


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 03:14 PM

You can get double attack and still be job 42, just leave Hide and Steal at level 5 each. Then, if you need to skill reset to be without double attack, you can put the 10 points into those two skills or move them back if/when we get the crit update. 

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:57 AM

When do you use ice pick vs scalpe/FQL on main hand? 

 

For the off hand is there a huge difference between a quad lib vs a combination of race, elem and size cards? That is, assuming I'm using assassin's despair instead of bako tats.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 05:02 AM

Ice pick+MG wins on pretty much all mvps with a 2xRace/2xele from what i seen on GX stat calc


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 05:11 AM

depends on mvp's Size and DEF
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 05:21 AM

Why does the mvp's size matter?

 

So does that mean i have to use 1 specific off-hand dagger for almost every MVP?

 

If i'm going to use main gauche, is the refine trivial?


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 05:39 AM

Weapon Attack is penalized depending on the enemy size. The bonus ATK from the Icepick effect is Equipment attack, wich is not penalized by size.

You can make some general daggers, like 4x AK, but for maximum efficiency and damage you want to card your offhand daggers for each different race/element combination.

Offhand refine is mostly trivial. Offhand attack and refines only affect the offhand damage, and that is super low anyways, just focus on the mainhand dmg.
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 05:52 AM

i.e. Ice pick for all large MVPs?

 

What are good combinations for neutral mvps since there are no neutral element cards?


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 05:59 AM

Abysmal Knight for all around MvPs or wait for future White Knightage card coming soon in 20XX :heh:


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:10 AM

i.e. Ice pick for all large MVPs?

 

What are good combinations for neutral mvps since there are no neutral element cards?

Not if their DEF is small (ex: Amdarais)

Size and Racial cards, can slap some AKs on too but it's a bit more expensive.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:31 AM

What about aunoe? 


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:36 AM

Good if you can reach 100 crit rate with daggers :heh:


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:41 AM

worse than racials/element/size if you are using other crit dmg gears, diminishing returns hits hard.
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 07:40 AM

Good if you can reach 100 crit rate with daggers :heh:

 

What do you mean? Isn't that the priority in the first place?

 

worse than racials/element/size if you are using other crit dmg gears, diminishing returns hits hard.

 

So does that mean the +30% crit rate from mob scarf isn't that great? I'm actually thinking whether or not I should go with the usual pre-mob scarf build since it's a bit cheaper. I'm not sure whether the bonuses from mob scarf would be worth it since I could just use that amount of money to buy a better weapon instead. 

 

Another thing, where do you get +10 stat foods? Some of the foods for crit seem to be low on supply. (e.g. arunafeltz sandwich, lucky rice cake)


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