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#51 KitanaWalker

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 08:27 PM

How does my post make me a jackass? I simply pointed out some points that you seem to not agree with. With all that you're saying, it seems to me that you believe that people shouldn't spend excessively, and that poor people deserve better. These factors typically describe a communist society, where all people are equal and have the same living conditions. In addition, just because you cannot fathom how I can spend $1000 per credit doesn't mean I don't. For the record, I attend a prestigious public university, and am paying out of state tuition. Private universities cost up to $2000 per credit, so I assure you that my tuition is considered cheap comparatively. Again, you may as well quit this game if you want to make a point. As far as I see, you're leeching off the funds that these heavier cash players are spending to keep the game up. In this aspect, you are supporting the game by providing it with an extra player to their population.

You're a jackass because you said, that I said being poor is an ideal. Do you understand that once you're below the poverty line there's a 90% chance you will never get above it? 95% of people die in the same social class as their parents did. Live doesn't give you chances. You can bust your ass until you collapse but you only get by, never get ahead. I tried college, I graduated my first college with honors, then I couldn't afford to finish my bachelor's degree. As bad as everyone I know has it, I see people dumping thousands into a videogame. I understand there money funneling allows me to play for $2/month, but I'd gladly never play this game if I was allowed to finish college.
I see this massive waste of money and think of all the people who need it. Maybe because all the people who disagree with me are safe finishing their college, but if you ever lose your home, your education, and have to start skipping meals, maybe you can understand why I find the money spent on this game disgusting.
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Posted 15 November 2010 - 09:00 PM

You're a jackass because you said, that I said being poor is an ideal. Do you understand that once you're below the poverty line there's a 90% chance you will never get above it? 95% of people die in the same social class as their parents did. Live doesn't give you chances. You can bust your ass until you collapse but you only get by, never get ahead. I tried college, I graduated my first college with honors, then I couldn't afford to finish my bachelor's degree. As bad as everyone I know has it, I see people dumping thousands into a videogame. I understand there money funneling allows me to play for $2/month, but I'd gladly never play this game if I was allowed to finish college.
I see this massive waste of money and think of all the people who need it. Maybe because all the people who disagree with me are safe finishing their college, but if you ever lose your home, your education, and have to start skipping meals, maybe you can understand why I find the money spent on this game disgusting.


I never said that being poor is an ideal. I said that what you're preaching is the basic foundations of communism. I don't see how you can justify yourself playing this game because you cannot finish college. As long as you're playing this game, you're supporting the game and its heavy cash spenders. You said yourself that you spent small amounts of money on this game. That alone shows that you are supporting this game and the "massive waste" of money spent on this game.

If your situation is like what you said, then you obviously have your priorities wrong if you're prioritizing internet over food, education, and a place to live in. There's plenty of places where you can use public internet, and a public computer, yet you waste your money on internet that you consider a luxury. To us, internet is not a luxury; it is a standard. There are differences between your spending and our spending, and what you're doing to make the best of your living situation surely isn't coming across to me as someone who has tried their best. Until then, you have no right to complain and no right to spout out random percentages about how your living situation cannot be changed.

You can keep on giving out wisdom about how you'll never get anywhere no matter how hard you work, but obviously, there are people who are successful that started out from nothing. I assure you that your definition of "busting your ass" is severely flawed if you can find time to commit to idle banter such as this on a forum about your financial situation, and can afford to waste time on the most time consuming type of game ever: an MMORPG.

Edited by Yurai, 15 November 2010 - 09:02 PM.

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#53 ApeKing

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 09:57 PM

While I personally find it rather stupid to spend thousands of dollars on this game, if they want to spend it let them. It's none of my business. I just sit back and laugh as I watch the sheep get herded.

Edited by ApeKing, 15 November 2010 - 09:57 PM.

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#54 Severfang

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 01:00 AM

like i said... be happy other people spend so you dont have to...
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 01:07 AM

If we want to talk about wasting money while other people need it, someone should tell Hollywood to stop giving Michael Bay to make movies.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 03:33 AM

Gameshark for higher success rates np
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 05:20 AM

When a person suggests mowing lawns and asking their parents for money, that sounds like something a child would do. Look at the previous posts and you'll see why I believe these are mostly spoiled kids with this money. More people are struggling to get by than there are people throwing money away on stupid :lol:.
Like I said, hundreds of dollars a month is the difference between keeping your home and living in low income housing. It's the difference between skipping dinner a couple times and eating every night.
Some people have to cut everything just to get by, and they don't have money for self indulgence. We just cut our phone line and switched to government funded cell phones. We don't have cable, and I can't afford to go back to college. Working 36 hours a week for minimum wage (which also means no full time benefits) doesn't allow room for much luxury. Internet is my only luxury.
All I see are people who have nothing better to do with their money than throw as much of it away as possible.
What did you tell yourself when THQ dropped Dragonica? Did you feel like that money was well spent?

My point was that even child could raise a little bit of money to spend on this game and as yurai said it has nothing to do with my age. I'm 20 started a business with friends and it's doing very well right now. Hate me if you want, in with words of Riley Freeman, "if ---- ain't hatin you doing something wrong."
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 06:25 AM

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 10:02 AM

You're a jackass because you said, that I said being poor is an ideal. Do you understand that once you're below the poverty line there's a 90% chance you will never get above it? 95% of people die in the same social class as their parents did. Live doesn't give you chances. You can bust your ass until you collapse but you only get by, never get ahead. I tried college, I graduated my first college with honors, then I couldn't afford to finish my bachelor's degree. As bad as everyone I know has it, I see people dumping thousands into a videogame. I understand there money funneling allows me to play for $2/month, but I'd gladly never play this game if I was allowed to finish college.
I see this massive waste of money and think of all the people who need it. Maybe because all the people who disagree with me are safe finishing their college, but if you ever lose your home, your education, and have to start skipping meals, maybe you can understand why I find the money spent on this game disgusting.


I understand with you having to see other people "dump" money into games but what are you to judge those people? Everything you say has a tint of communistic ideals. Having said that, unless you're from China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam or North Korea, there are going to be different social classes, get used to it.
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#60 Pierce

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 01:13 PM

^ What ABCs said.

Who are you to judge people based on how they spend their money? It's not like its affecting you in anyway what they do with their money other then the fact that they pay to keep this game running; without cash users do you really think this game would still be here?

Edited by Pierce, 16 November 2010 - 01:14 PM.

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 01:43 PM

If we want to talk about wasting money while other people need it, someone should tell Hollywood to stop giving Michael Bay to make movies.

BUT I LIKE EXPLOSIONS AND NO PLOT
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#62 KitanaWalker

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 03:43 PM

I never said that being poor is an ideal. I said that what you're preaching is the basic foundations of communism. I don't see how you can justify yourself playing this game because you cannot finish college. As long as you're playing this game, you're supporting the game and its heavy cash spenders. You said yourself that you spent small amounts of money on this game. That alone shows that you are supporting this game and the "massive waste" of money spent on this game.

If your situation is like what you said, then you obviously have your priorities wrong if you're prioritizing internet over food, education, and a place to live in. There's plenty of places where you can use public internet, and a public computer, yet you waste your money on internet that you consider a luxury. To us, internet is not a luxury; it is a standard. There are differences between your spending and our spending, and what you're doing to make the best of your living situation surely isn't coming across to me as someone who has tried their best. Until then, you have no right to complain and no right to spout out random percentages about how your living situation cannot be changed.

You can keep on giving out wisdom about how you'll never get anywhere no matter how hard you work, but obviously, there are people who are successful that started out from nothing. I assure you that your definition of "busting your ass" is severely flawed if you can find time to commit to idle banter such as this on a forum about your financial situation, and can afford to waste time on the most time consuming type of game ever: an MMORPG.

Communism is where the government controls all aspects of society, including the job and financial sector, healthcare, education, breeding rights, journalism and entertainment. What you think I'm desrcibing is socialism, where everyone shares their assets for the greater good. Capitalism isn't some wonderful social structure, why does the top 10% of the population have more wealth than the bottom 50%?
This isn't an argument for social structure, just a socio-economic disparity that I see.
I think you have no idea what hardwork is, considering you get to go to a $1000/credit hour university. Try being on your feet 9 hours a day with no benefits or overtime.
And to think that a free MMORPG doesn't suit a lower class lifestyle? I have spent $25 for a videogame that has so far lasted 13 months. I don't have the time to grind in this game, it took me a whole year to get my one and only character to level 52.
Considering all the luxuries of cable, going out, snacks, videogames, and internet, I believe internet is the best option. I can play videogames, watch cable, watch anime, read manga, read news, listen to music, and get fight results with internet.
You know nothing of cutting back, buckling down, or doing without if you consider playing a free online game a poor financial choice. I get one luxury, something I can enjoy when I'm home, and I picked internet.
And I do spend a ton of time at my library, borrowing movies, tv shows, and mangas, but it closes at 9, I get off at 7, I would like to sit on my couch and be able to relax after work.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 05:38 PM


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Take it to pm or wall plz. I'm not interested in talking economic/political theory or comparing lifestyles and work ethic. I find your effort to dispraise the favor that people are doing for the rest of the community, when they spend money on this game, rather annoying and selfish.I'll say one last thing before ignoring all further responses about this particular issue.What's with the comparisons. Who cares if Yurai goes to a better school than you, or he has better "luck". You say that the community is full of spoiled brats, but I only see one person complaining here. You say that you're not jealous about peoples resources, but then you go and try to call people out for being lazy or having an "easy" life. What's with that? Sorry, but why do you think Yurai needs to justify and prove himself to you? He doesn't.

I can play videogames, watch cable, watch anime, read manga, read news, listen to music, and get fight results with internet.
You know nothing of cutting back, buckling down, or doing without if you consider playing a free online game a poor financial choice. I get one luxury, something I can enjoy when I'm home, and I picked internet.
And I do spend a ton of time at my library, borrowing movies, tv shows, and mangas, but it closes at 9, I get off at 7, I would like to sit on my couch and be able to relax after work.

I think maybe you should cut back on some of those things, or at least cut back on interacting with people on the forum until you get a better hold on your financial situation. It seems like your financial situation is making you rather angry towards certain people in our community, and I doubt you are going to find anyone here in the same situation as you. I am not sure if you simply desire pity or attention, but if you are just expressing anger about the fact that life is unfair, get used to it. Let the people who are spending thousands of dollars on this game serve as a motivation to continue fighting to have a better life for yourself, and stop directing your anger at them and wasting more of your time complaining and turning people against you.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 05:58 PM

Try being on your feet 9 hours a day with no benefits or overtime.


Been there, done that. I've worked at some of the lowest jobs on the totem pole (read: McDonald's maintenance man, cleaning bathrooms and such), and that motivated me to try harder and aspire to something better -- so why shouldn't I reap the benefits of my own hard work? I busted my you-know-what off to be able to afford going to a good college, and now it's paying off.

You assume that everyone who went to college is some kind of spoiled rich brat, but you couldn't be more wrong. College nowadays is more expensive than ever, and jobs aren't paying much more than they have in the past (while the cost of living continues to rise daily). Yes, there is a TINY fraction of the population who are rich and can afford college while just coasting on their family's riches. But for MOST of us, that is NOT reality. Many of us have saved every penny we could and sought out every financial opportunity possible (read: lots and lots of work applying for scholarships, working two or three jobs WHILE IN SCHOOL, etc.) to ensure that we wouldn't be stuck in the same old rut forever.

You think you're one of the only people who has ever had to work hard or go without some of life's luxuries? Get over yourself.

It seems like your financial situation is making you rather angry towards certain people in our community, and I doubt you are going to find anyone here in the same situation as you. I am not sure if you simply desire pity or attention, but if you are just expressing anger about the fact that life is unfair, get used to it. Let the people who are spending thousands of dollars on this game serve as a motivation to continue fighting to have a better life for yourself, and stop directing your anger at them and wasting more of your time complaining and turning people against you.


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Edited by Rimmy, 16 November 2010 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 06:42 PM

Why do you care so much if people spend that money on this game? Its THEIR Business not YOURS. It's not like you are being injured by them buying things. They earned their money (hopefully legitimately) and they get to spend it on what they want within the law.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 06:59 PM

The way your talking it's as if 99% of the population is rich and your not. You have no clue what people may be going through. So try thinking over your my situation. Do you think it was easy for my friends and I to start a business? We didn't just magically snap our fingers and make it appear. We invested a TON of money into it and took the risk ( an educated one). 9 hours standing up working? Don't kid yourself, everyone and thier mom works that long if not more so. I don't get paid overtime as a VP, I just do what it takes to get ahead and I'm doing all of it while going to college. Now think about what I just told you and what you thought you knew about me.

Communism is where the government controls all aspects of society, including the job and financial sector, healthcare, education, breeding rights, journalism and entertainment. What you think I'm desrcibing is socialism, where everyone shares their assets for the greater good. Capitalism isn't some wonderful social structure, why does the top 10% of the population have more wealth than the bottom 50%?
This isn't an argument for social structure, just a socio-economic disparity that I see.
I think you have no idea what hardwork is, considering you get to go to a $1000/credit hour university. Try being on your feet 9 hours a day with no benefits or overtime.
And to think that a free MMORPG doesn't suit a lower class lifestyle? I have spent $25 for a videogame that has so far lasted 13 months. I don't have the time to grind in this game, it took me a whole year to get my one and only character to level 52.
Considering all the luxuries of cable, going out, snacks, videogames, and internet, I believe internet is the best option. I can play videogames, watch cable, watch anime, read manga, read news, listen to music, and get fight results with internet.
You know nothing of cutting back, buckling down, or doing without if you consider playing a free online game a poor financial choice. I get one luxury, something I can enjoy when I'm home, and I picked internet.
And I do spend a ton of time at my library, borrowing movies, tv shows, and mangas, but it closes at 9, I get off at 7, I would like to sit on my couch and be able to relax after work.


On topic: but yeah better soul craft rates please I shouldnt fail 20 times to special something. That rate should be reserved for legendary gear.

Edited by LadiThePKK, 16 November 2010 - 07:03 PM.

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#67 grenadier42

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 07:06 PM

Okay then let's stop paying gravity money so that it closes down and you lose your mmo entertainment source via your indirect actions and wait where were we going with this again?
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 07:07 PM

On topic: but yeah better soul craft rates please I shouldnt fail 20 times to special something. That rate should be reserved for legendary gear.


Agreed, the rates are horrible now pretty much the whole way through. 38 tries to special a weapon is just crazy. It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't require almost a full stack every time -- you burn through souls way too fast, with nothing to show for it.
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Posted 16 November 2010 - 07:09 PM

I lol'd to arguments
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Posted 17 November 2010 - 04:29 AM

My sarcasm machine raged......
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