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#1 Hardc0re

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 05:46 AM

Since the wiki isn't the most reliable place in the world for this:

Are the formulas different between Classic and Renewal? Specially regarding Mirror Image?

 

i.e. Does your mirror image affects the Killing Strike damage on Classic? I know that is true for Renewal (because the number of hits is tied to you Mirror Image).

Do you guys know the exact formula for each version?

 

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#2 Hardc0re

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 08:06 AM

Anyone?


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#3 Kadelia

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 08:46 AM

Who told you the wiki isn't reliable? They lied to you.
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Posted 08 January 2015 - 10:18 AM

wiki's pretty outdated in certain places. For example, soul destroyer formula is completely wrong for renewal, and any person new to the ninja class would immediately reroll after reading the wiki for ninjas.
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Posted 08 January 2015 - 10:21 AM

Who told you the wiki isn't reliable? They lied to you.

 

Regarding Killing Strike and Mirror Image.

Renewal Wiki:

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Killing_Strike

Deals a number of hits equal to the remaining hits on Mirror Image + 1

 

Classic Wiki

http://irowiki.org/c.../Killing_Strike

It doesn't say anything about it.

 

So, since you are saying that the wiki is reliable, is it safe to assume that Killing Strike on Classic will always hit the same number of times, no matter how much Mirror Images hits are left?


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 10:37 AM

Yeah its just 1 hit pre renewal


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 10:51 AM

Who told you the wiki isn't reliable? They lied to you.

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Shadow_Warrior

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Empty_Shadow

http://irowiki.org/w...inous_Moonlight

http://irowiki.org/w...onlight_Fantasy

 

its just empty.........


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 11:20 AM

Then update it. The wiki is the most accurate repository of this community's knowledge. Its a wiki. If you know something that isn't there-- add it.
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Posted 08 January 2015 - 01:11 PM

Then update it. The wiki is the most accurate repository of this community's knowledge. Its a wiki. If you know something that isn't there-- add it.

 

 

Who told you the wiki isn't reliable? They lied to you.

 

can u? i can't cuz i am new on kage/obo class (i don't have one yet) or maybe most of the community just don't know how to work those things... i just know some basic things and that are next to nothing about the class for me... 


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#10 Hardc0re

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 01:48 PM

Yeah its just 1 hit pre renewal

 

Really?

I was trying to make some kind of hybrid build using KS and some spells, and this info made my life a lot better, because I won't be putting points into Mirror Image now.

 

Thank you very much sir, I was wondering if it was the wiki being wrong or the renewal formula change.


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 02:49 PM

Aka the wiki was right.
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#12 Hardc0re

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 03:03 PM

Aka the wiki was right.

 

Yes, but the main reason I was not sure about it is because the wiki has lots of misinformation.

 

Main example being the renewal updated formulas. If you want to see the actual formulas you have to look here:

http://forums.warppo...lance-formulas/

Because the wiki has 90% of them wrong.


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Posted 08 January 2015 - 05:14 PM

That statistic is 90% wrong.


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#14 Hardc0re

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:49 AM

That statistic is 90% wrong.

 

If the wiki has even 1% wrong information, it's not wrong calling it "unreliable".

Stop taking it personally, are you the creator of it or something?

 

I'm just trying to find correct formulas before screwing my build.


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#15 Kadelia

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:50 AM

You're unreliable.

This forum is unreliable.

This company is unreliable.

Your school is unreliable.

You may as well give up on getting correct information, because you just deemed all sources, alternate to wiki or itself, unreliable.


Edited by Jaye, 09 January 2015 - 06:51 AM.

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:51 AM

jaye FIESTY today
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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:52 AM

Every day, boo. :p_hi:


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#18 jochy

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:39 AM

can u? i can't cuz i am new on kage/obo class (i don't have one yet) or maybe most of the community just don't know how to work those things... i just know some basic things and that are next to nothing about the class for me... 

 

:p_hi:

 

anyway, you can't use a wiki as main source


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 09:08 AM

Wiki is probably 90% accurate and has been updated for those post-balance formulas ages ago. It's probably over 90% accurate for the "core" classes actually. It might be under 90% accurate for Kage/Obo because nobody cares about them and honestly they aren't really meant to be very competitive against other classes and overall they are balanced lower than the "cores".
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Posted 09 January 2015 - 10:05 AM

Wiki is probably 90% accurate and has been updated for those post-balance formulas ages ago. It's probably over 90% accurate for the "core" classes actually. It might be under 90% accurate for Kage/Obo because nobody cares about them and honestly they aren't really meant to be very competitive against other classes and overall they are balanced lower than the "cores".

This.

Besides, its still being updated, even nowadays. Click the recent updates link on the left and you will see.

http://irowiki.org/w...l:RecentChanges

Edited by Jaye, 09 January 2015 - 10:13 AM.

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