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[Shinyusuke]

We all know partial infotmations about the the content so maybe these toughts will be wrong but for now what i think is that edgar gears cam be easily skipped. Cazar gears have normal blue green and red runes that soon will give straight stats insteads upper level gears will have gold and purple runes. Cazar can equip 5 runes each gear new gears will equip only 3 runes. New blue runes will give agi int and str this means also on gears that don't have these stats we will gain them. WE knights use all them this means improved normal damage and hit (str) again hit, dodge and crit (agi) and crit damage (int). Lets use a bad set of blueseed whit only +34 stats (if i'm not wrong a 20% blue seed) 34x7= 238 str int and agi this means 476 pattack +95% critical and maybe 1% more critical shsnces. Are we sure the new gears will close the gap?

[Greven79]

Dont forget that knights have 13 purple runeslots on the new gear! Equip 3x INT-80 runes, 3x STR-80 runes and 3x AGI-80 runes and you've copied your 240pts-per-stat example using blueseeds (20%). Another purple rune and you achieve what the 13x normal runeslots filled with +5 rune would achieve. So still have 4 more purple runes to go.

 

The crux is that the new Eddga gear also removed 'useless' stat bonuses you would normally get. A knight f.e. loses ~300pts AGI. So it would take about 4 purple runes to compensate the loss. So in the end, it's only a nerf if you had better seedrunes or used rune enhancement elixirs to fill your gear with +10 runes. (But even that is somewhat negated by a slightly better honing)

 

What makes Eddga totally broken is the simple fact that Knights and Warriors have Battle Tactics. Whereas the blueseed change is a nerf for all the other classes, it fuels BT with 200~350pts INT for free. And if it turns out that these two classes can use INT-80 purple runes, it will definitely ruin any hope for balance.

 

So all in all, it turns out that knights perform pretty well with the new gear.

 

To show you the opposite: A monk f.e loses ~660 INT and ~950 AGI... try to compensate that with purple runes!

Edited by Greven79, 05 February 2015 - 03:30 PM.

[Shinyusuke]

As i sad info are partials, what about the time to get them +80 runes? And what happened to the greenseedrunes? CLS will be used too (we know how use the actual cls runes on cazar) if another class does't have to compensate any nerf can use them spaces for pvp.
Maybe I had to say farm edgar but don't wear them until you get all them +80 runes and at that point chose the best equip. All these suppositions are made whit blue 20 what about blue 30 or the no more ultrarare 50?

[Greven79]

Well, the new Eddga gear trades fix bonuses for variable ones. And some parts are 'nerfed' more than others. So yes, generally spoken, it's only worth a try, if you have the proper purple runes. But that's not different to the current refinement or honing system. Don't change your gear unless you can bring it to the same refinement level or achieve similar powerful honing results.

Edited by Greven79, 06 February 2015 - 05:06 AM.

[Shinyusuke]

That's true but until now new gears were always better than the plain old ones I fear a situation like when AoV came out that no one used new gears because they were way less powerfull (except def) and to fix this developers overboosted them gears and added runes and we know what happened to the raids and the balance