42 replies to this topic

[ShoLin]

I know you can't read every PM you get. This is the opportunity to answer this.

 

Not even getting one level, at 105, by bringing your homunculus from loyal to neutral, is a bit much.This accompanying with the bug where your homunculus locking up when being hit. Moreover, there is a possibility to lose your hard work by it running away.

 

I don't want to hear Kro blah blah blah. The GM team must be able to do something about this to make leveling our pets not such a nightmare.

[Necrohealiac]

you need to provide more context.  assuming you mean getting the pet from neutral to loyal, where are you leveling it?  what pet is it?  does it have AoE abilities?  homunc S are pretty terrible until they get AoEs and even though they don't suffer exp penalties, OD mobs don't give that much exp in the first place.

[DeadIntern]

You can't be bothered to turn off your homun's glaring skills at towns. But now you want Oda to response to you to make homun system easier.

 

If I were to post my opinion, it'll definitely gets the thread locked. lol

Edited by DeadIntern, 28 March 2015 - 08:45 AM.

[PIayboy]

OD isnt that bad with spotlight lol. that you just missed or didnt even go

Edited by PIayboy, 28 March 2015 - 09:19 AM.

[ShoLin]

you need to provide more context.  assuming you mean getting the pet from neutral to loyal, where are you leveling it?  what pet is it?  does it have AoE abilities?  homunc S are pretty terrible until they get AoEs and even though they don't suffer exp penalties, OD mobs don't give that much exp in the first place.

My homun is at loyal, I afked it till it was neutral didn't even get one level. No it doesn't have aoe which makes it even more difficult.

 

You can't be bothered to turn off your homun's glaring skills at towns. But now you want Oda to response to you to make homun system easier.

 

If I were to post my opinion, it'll definitely gets the thread locked. lol

I don't care what you think.

 

 

OD isnt that bad with spotlight lol. that you just missed or didnt even go

 

this was during the spotlight

Edited by ShoLin, 28 March 2015 - 09:19 AM.

[DrAzzy]

I'd expect 5-10 hrs per level around there with spotlight on? If it's much slower than that, I'd suspect problems with your config. 

 

Homun leveling has always been slow - the rest of RO used to be as brutal and unforgiving as homun leveling. 

[ShoLin]

No it wasn't I 99/70'ed my Champ not even in a week. It's aprox 10 hours per level, i have other things better to do than baby this thing. So in math it'll take 500 hours which is stupid.

[DonatoX]

LOlllllllllllllllllllll..... ShoLin, have you ever tried to level Champ without BM before? 

 

 

Edited by DonatoX, 28 March 2015 - 06:39 PM.

[Inubashiri]

[iZap]

No it wasn't I 99/70'ed my Champ not even in a week. It's aprox 10 hours per level, i have other things better to do than baby this thing. So in math it'll take 500 hours which is stupid.

was that even possible pre-renewal???!!!

[ShoLin]

Yes, i leveled faster in pre renewal than I did in renewal.

 

Did I level a champ with no manuals? Yes. It takes less time than a stupid homun.

[tatihana00]

 

*laughed so hard, i choked on my sweet tea*

[mikayel]

Heh, this thread makes me smile. 

[OniichanN]

 

I don't care what you think.

 

And why should we care what you think then? :3

[OreoBoolat]

Don't play a gene with homun's helps then if you don't have the patience.

[ShoLin]

Because not everyone is masochistic like you. Moreover, some of us have actual lives. You know, work and families to take care of. Not just to dedicate 500 hours for one thing to this game.

 

 

And why should we care what you think then? :3

 

I'm not going to listen to some fool that attacks me for a personal reason.

 

Inuba, stop posting pointless spam in my threads.

[kingarthur6687]

[ShoLin]

Seems like I'm being the most mature one here.

[Inubashiri]

Inuba, stop posting pointless spam in my threads.

 

First of all, rules say no call out threads.

 

Second, you don't want kRO blah blah blah...sounds like we're done here.

[VModCinnamon]

Okay, if you or any other poster have suggestions to improve Homunculus leveling then do list them down for CM Oda to read. Calling him out to do that "something" is not helping at all nor this thread. From there CMs may give feedback on what can be done under iRO development team and what can't be.

 

Also please relax with your posting tone and share a constructive point, this goes for every poster in this thread. Unable to maintain this through further pointless replies will get them removed or edited out, worst case locking the thread.

 

[ShoLin]

So that means no senseless meme gifs.

 

They can't reprogram anything, they can make new places though.

 

[kingarthur6687]

Alright then, a constructive post with math using numbers pulled from iROWiki.

 

Hours presumed spent on your Homunc:

"Loyal to Neutral", as quoted from OP, presumed to be a drop from Loyal to Neutral loyalty; in numbers that's a loyalty loss of at least 250 (1000 -> 750), 1 hour of starving results in -18 loyalty. So:

 

1000 - 750 = 250

250 / 18 = 13.888 hours.

 

I'll be generous and round that to 15 hours of homunc being out, to accomodate any leeway and time spent not starving.

 

Exp required to level from 105 to 106: 4,921,000.

4921000 / 15 = ~328066 exp per hour to level up.

328066 / 60 = ~5467 exp per minute to level up.

5467 / 60 = ~91 exp per second to level up.

 

Zenorc gives 450 base exp on 1x rates. Presuming spotlight (as mentioned), 450 * 1 = 450 because Geffen spotlight did not include OD.

 

4921000 / 450 = ~10935 Zenorcs kills to level up.

328066 / 450 = ~729 Zenorcs kills per hour to level up.

5467 / 450 = ~12 Zenorcs kills per minute to level up.

91 / 450 = ~1/5 of a Zenorc kill to level up.

 

By comparison, a level 105 3rd class player character requires 9,610,000 exp to level up.

9,610,000 / 4,921,000 = ~1.95

 

Leveling a homunc from level 105 to 106 is twice as easy as leveling a 3rd class from level 105 to 106. I don't see any problem here.

Edited by kingarthur6687, 29 March 2015 - 09:10 PM.

[ShoLin]

I can do 105-106 in not even an hour. The point is players are way more efficient then homunculus. There is no point of a 105 player leveling in OD2 so this is moot.

 

It's aprox 10 hours per level on ami/sera for one level. 10x50=500 I spent no where near that time from 1-150 from first class.

 

This about how to drop that time giving the iRO team ideas on what they can do.

[Necrohealiac]

it's been suggested that bounty boards give a homunc exp option. you should bring that up in the tiki tues thread to see where they are with that.

[PervySageMarty]

We all have lives outside our games and visual novels yet we all seem to manage leveling a homu absolutely fine, your arguement is very flawed.
 

What seems to be your problem here is that you don't seem to want to put any hard work or effort into the game but expect big payouts and results.

 

Necro's suggestion is very good, you can try bring it up at tiki tuesdays.