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#1 T4eCler1c

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 06:07 AM

Class builds for Dg's for people just getting into the field and tips.
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#2 T4eCler1c

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 06:12 AM

Hello, I was curious about a decent champ build for dg's. I currently run a spear build with full reinforced aurum and don't have much problems but I wanted to know what's next? Should I go curage or brave? which breaks down to crit or dodge? Or is it worth it to get lumi for sp or chiv for Ap?
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#3 Bendersmom

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 06:17 AM

Most of the classes have builds on the class specific section of the forums.  some are older posts but they will give you a decent general build.  Some of the descriptions have been updated.  That is the best place to start.  Then find people that have your class in game and talk to them about specifics.  Just remember, everyone builds for their style of game play, which might vary from yours.  But the posts are good general descriptions.


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#4 Krizalis

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 03:43 AM

If you are going to do dungeons.. then you shouldnt be looking at Honor gears (ie: chiva/lumi/prec/glori) sets.. because they have negative PVM offense and defense.. making you weak for dungeons since they are against Mobs.. hence PVM.. If you know you are going to do dungeons with a partner who can tank well (like a knight).. then you can safely go Courage for the extra PVM offense it gives vs rein set's PVM offense.. and not to mention better crit and accu from the set.. If not, you can go with Brave.. for better dodge and tankability.. But you can always opt to have both sets.. depending on who your partners is in dungeons.. :)


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#5 TheRealCaNehDa

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 04:43 PM

If you are going to do dungeons.. then you shouldnt be looking at Honor gears (ie: chiva/lumi/prec/glori) sets.. because they have negative PVM offense and defense.. making you weak for dungeons since they are against Mobs.. hence PVM.. If you know you are going to do dungeons with a partner who can tank well (like a knight).. then you can safely go Courage for the extra PVM offense it gives vs rein set's PVM offense.. and not to mention better crit and accu from the set.. If not, you can go with Brave.. for better dodge and tankability.. But you can always opt to have both sets.. depending on who your partners is in dungeons.. :)

Forgive me for not knowing much, but I use lvl 220 exalted for PVM w/ a crit/aspeed substat until my crit is 50%, then I use aspeed/AP substats, luna set w/ p7 personally, 

My question to you, is wouldn't the accu for PVM be nearly completely useless, as like, 120con -140 con on a spear champ IMO is more than sufficient in PVM ...  that being said, going for a fairly high SEN/DEX build,(w/ enough STR to wield epic) using the dodge passive, would make the brave set much more desirable. no?

 

Please feel free to correct me if you believe me to be wrong, I've never used valor armor... 


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Posted 31 May 2015 - 01:59 AM

Forgive me for not knowing much, but I use lvl 220 exalted for PVM w/ a crit/aspeed substat until my crit is 50%, then I use aspeed/AP substats, luna set w/ p7 personally, 

My question to you, is wouldn't the accu for PVM be nearly completely useless, as like, 120con -140 con on a spear champ IMO is more than sufficient in PVM ...  that being said, going for a fairly high SEN/DEX build,(w/ enough STR to wield epic) using the dodge passive, would make the brave set much more desirable. no?

 

Please feel free to correct me if you believe me to be wrong, I've never used valor armor... 

 

Yes you dont need that much Accu for PVM fighting.. but the reason why Courage is more desirable (if you have a tank with you).. is because of the extra PVM Offense it gives vs the amount of PVM Offense Brave gives.. It will make you be able to kill mobs faster in DG with your AOE due to the extra PVM Offense.. With brave set though, you would deal less DMG and it takes longer time to kill the mobs.. But of course, like I said, If you don't have a tank with you, you can then get the brave set and be the tank (to dodge with brave set) to help your team.. But you wont be able to finish the mobs as quickly as using Courage gears..

 

But this is all subjective.. it depends on how you build your char and how you want to play it in dungeons.. For me, I like to kill mobs faster rather than being able to dodge/tank and slowly kill them off.. I rather Kill all before they kill me.. (Attack is the best defense saying).. so yeah that's my style~


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Posted 31 May 2015 - 03:30 AM

Hello, I was curious about a decent champ build for dg's. I currently run a spear build with full reinforced aurum and don't have much problems but I wanted to know what's next? Should I go curage or brave? which breaks down to crit or dodge? Or is it worth it to get lumi for sp or chiv for Ap?

 

Instead of clicking "Quote", I accidentally voted LMAO

 

well, about your question, Krizalis is right, Lumi, Glor, Chiva, Prec are Honor gears which will give you negative PvM Offense and Resistance.

 

You said you are using Reinforce set now then you can choose either of these, Level 220 Brave Set(Dodge/Hp), Level 220 Courage Set(Critical/Accuracy) or Level 220 Exalted Sets. You are asking "Should I go courage or brave?" Well for me, I will choose Brave Set(Dodge/Hp) because I want to become as tanky as possibly and not heavily dependent on cleric's heal while performing AOEs, killing those monsters surrounding my group mates.

 

Canehda's build is very good if you have always a stable and very good group mates to get along with you but in your question I will stick choosing Brave Set.


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