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[Oda]

Event

Going to test past anniversary quests for compatability, any particular ones you want to see brought back?

 

PVP/BG Announcer NPC will now have a much shorter 1 hour cooldown

 

Update

 

Challenge dungeon updates! New map, different monsters! We'll likely be testing out these with drop-less monsters this week and add drops depending on the feedback this week. Updates coming next week!

[Themes]

Please look at changing the quest Morroc map (moc_fild21) to no longer be PvP. People have been using the BG blues on the map to farm there and it's a little bit silly.

 

As for the Anniversary, I'd like to see anything that would bring back old hats that we cant really get very easily right now. The Orc event was pretty fun IMO and had the Vintage Orc Helms (although these have been available from a source or two since then). The Red Beret event from last year was also pretty good, you probably dont even need to flood the maps with spawns for them as most people would prefer to kill Maya instead of adding more monsters for you guys to balance.

 

Cool beans about the Challenge Dungeon, exciting to see some movement on that front.

 

Also I just posted this in the other thread about Guild Dungeon spawns/drops!

Spoiler

Ok so here's another pile of words for Guild Dungeons, starting with their missing/weird drop rates and ending with more spawn talk.

So right now it's been fairly evident to people that there's things missing from the drop tables of a handful of Guild Dungeon monsters, now that we have actual drop amounts we can look at them:

Bolded are the odd/non-existant drop rates.

Baldur:
AM_MUT Dokkaebi_Horn 68.16% Elunium_Stone 3.72% Sword_Mace_ 0.01% Gold 0.01% Spirit_Chain 0.01% Ancient_Card_Album 0.01% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Am_Mut_Card 0.02%
GAJOMART Stone_Heart 97.44% Zargon 34.44% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Bomb_Wick 0.04% Fire_Arrow 150.00% Magic_Study_Vol1 0.00% Flame_Heart 2.64% Gajomart_Card 0.02%
SKELETON_GENERAL Burn_Tree 38.16% Oridecon_Stone 2.40% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Gladius_ 0.48% Gladius 1.20% Sandstorm 0.16% Ghost_Bandana 0.01% Skeleton_General_Card 0.02%

Brit:
WRAITH_DEAD Transparent_Cloth 66.16% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Manteau_ 0.04% Red_Gemstone 10.44% Crystal_Jewel__ 0.01% Old_Blue_Box 1.44% Lemon 4.44% Wraith_Dead_Card 0.02%
ZOMBIE_MASTER Tatters_Clothes 66.16% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Horrendous_Mouth 22.44% Cardinal_Jewel 2.92% White_Jewel 1.44% Ghoul_Leg 0.00% Scapulare_ 0.01% Zombie_Master_Card 0.02%
MINI_DEMON Petite_DiablOfs_Horn 66.16% Petite_DiablOfs_Wing 6.72% Satanic_Chain 0.01% Elunium_Stone 2.40% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Sacred_Marks 0.12% Ahlspiess 0.00% Mini_Demon_Card 0.02%

Luina:
ANCIENT_WORM Short_Leg 66.16% Zargon 37.44% Boots_ 0.04% Bowman_Scarf 0.00% Round_Shell 10.12% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Brigan 37.44% Ancient_Worm_Card 0.02%
GIANT_HONET Royal_Jelly 8.16% Honey 18.00% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Leaf_Of_Yggdrasil 0.16% Staff_ 0.01% Scarlet_Jewel 0.24% Double_Bound 0.16% Giant_Honet_Card 0.02%
GIANT_SPIDER Spiderweb 68.16% Short_Leg 18.00% Elunium_Stone 2.04% Panacea 6.72% Solid_Shell 18.00% Round_Shell 10.12% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Giant_Spider_Card 0.02%
KILLER_MANTIS Limb_Of_Mantis 68.16% Solid_Shell 37.44% Azure_Jewel 0.12% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Grape 0.28% Nail_Of_Loki 0.00% Mirror_Shield_ 0.01% Killer_Mantis_Card 0.02%

Valk:
CREMY_FEAR Powder_Of_Butterfly 68.16% Silver_Robe_ 0.12% Honey 8.16% Wing_Of_Butterfly 2.92% Book 0.04% Icarus_Wing 0.00% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Cremy_Fear_Card 0.02%
CATERPILLAR Feather 44.92% Brigan 79.96% Twilight_Desert 0.00% Star_Crumb 1.44% Great_Nature 0.72% Blue_Potion 0.12% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Caterpillar_Card 0.02%
LEIB_OLMAI Bear's_Foot 68.16% Poo_Poo_Hat 0.04% Stuffed_Doll 1.72% Honey 7.44% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Gold 0.01% Cyfar 12.00% Leib_Olmai_Card 0.02%
GULLINBURSTI Wild_Boar's_Mane 52.44% Grape 4.32% Animal_Blood 0.01% Eagle_Eyes 0.01% Anodyne 0.16% Cl_WoE_Supply_S 1.85% Zargon 2.40% Gullinbursti_Card 0.02%

 

So some of those are fairly irrelevant, but I bolded them because there shouldnt be anything rarer than a monsters card, at best they should be equal drop rate (I did ignore the Gajomart ACA at 0.01% though). There's also the ones that just dont drop that we've been talking about for a while now. Magic Bible, Icarus Wings, Bowman Scarf etc.I dont really want to link to each monsters proper drop rates.

 

As for spawn rates, Luina/Valk are far far far more useful than any of the other guild dungeons right now to supply from and are very heavily LK favoured. It would be nice to see Baldur/Brit either get their spawns buffed or the drop rate on their boxes increased.

 

Here's some work I did earlier this year with regards to spawns:

 

Luina (http://db.irowiki.or...info/gld_dun02/) - 60 total box dropping monsters

 

Valk (http://db.irowiki.or...info/gld_dun03/) - 120 total box dropping monsters

 

Baldur (http://db.irowiki.or...info/gld_dun01/) - 60 total box dropping monsters

 

Baldur is nice, but not amazing. Increasing the Gajomart move speed made it a lot better, however the spawns are still a little scarce. I'd consider adding another 5-7 of each type to the map to make it a bit more dense as it probably has the largest size of any of the maps.

 

Brit (http://db.irowiki.or...info/gld_dun04/) - 57 total box dropping monsters

I feel that of the two that need buffs, Brit needs the largest. It's a fairly big map with wide corridors and a lot of tiles, you'd probably need to add maybe 10 of each type to make this a map to compete with the two current useful dungons.

 

If you're hesitant about making big changes to the spawns start small and work towards some balance.

 

As for the drop rates, it'd be really nice if these were fixed. They've all dropped before but somehow now no longer exist.

Edited by Themes, 22 June 2015 - 03:50 PM.

[AlmrOfAtlas]

Please look at changing the quest Morroc map (moc_fild21) to no longer be PvP. People have been using the BG blues on the map to farm there and it's a little bit silly.

 

Went into DG the other day and noticed that WoE Blues from Battlegrounds are usable in there. Being infinitely farmable with no zeny down, there's room for abuse in allowing that.

 

Just wondering if it was intended.

 

Oda didn't respond to me about it when I brought it up the other day so I guess it was intended :/

[lxst]

everything sounds good but i have to ask again. what is a challenge dungeon?

 

unfortunately i've never seen an iro event soooo ANY OF THEM! YA!

 

oh, and anyone know where a full list of available pets is? if you compare the wiki to whats been sold via ragial its apparent the list is short.

 

on a side note, and i havent seen this myself mind you. a pal of mine said that fabre's (sp? the little green caterpillar things in training grounds) arent spawning where there suposed to. he said he checked the 5? maps there supposed to spawn on looking for fluff. for a job change quest. ended up making a new toon and getting it from the training ground because that was easyer.

 

thx everyone for there time. c-ya in game

[Ambur]

 The Red Beret event from last year was also pretty good, you probably dont even need to flood the maps with spawns for them as most people would prefer to kill Maya instead of adding more monsters for you guys to balance.

Would keep the Scaraba spawns. The ants are more noob friendly but are very time consuming to farm, the scaraba is the harder spawn for when you can't camp/find Maya though. x) It took them a bit of fixing up last year to get them all working right [some weeks], so thankfully it's not a major trial n error again.

[Themes]

everything sounds good but i have to ask again. what is a challenge dungeon?

 

unfortunately i've never seen an iro event soooo ANY OF THEM! YA!

 

oh, and anyone know where a full list of available pets is? if you compare the wiki to whats been sold via ragial its apparent the list is short.

 

on a side note, and i havent seen this myself mind you. a pal of mine said that fabre's (sp? the little green caterpillar things in training grounds) arent spawning where there suposed to. he said he checked the 5? maps there supposed to spawn on looking for fluff. for a job change quest. ended up making a new toon and getting it from the training ground because that was easyer.

 

thx everyone for there time. c-ya in game

 

The Challenge Dungeon is iRO exclusive content added by our development team, it's there to help give players new places to go/see/kill as we're right at the end of the standard pre-renewal content. We've had a couple so far, there's one currently half implemented you can head over behind the Prontera Church to the grave with a dark aura, the things in there hit very hard but dont have any drops. We're currently working on getting a new one properly done so people will visit it.

 

There is no complete list of pets, ragial + irowiki is the list. As for the passive buffs only the ones on the wiki are probably working, although I'm sure if required to the GMs could implement most of the Renewal pet bonuses.

 

Yes Fabres not being present on some of the maps is a known issue. They have an ability called Metamorphosis which gives them a chance to turn into a Creamy. If none of the Creamys are killed then you end up with a map full of Creamys and zero Fabres. Not sure what the best way is to solve it honestly, may just be best to remove Metamorphosis from the Fabre skill list or spawn some of the training ground Fabres in small amounts near the Geffen maps (although with them being aggressive it may get confusing).

 

Edit: Yeah I forgot about the small insects, those are probably fairly simple. But the Scaraba stuff was miserable. However I think part of the problem with that event is that those monsterIDs have already been reassigned to other things (Nidhogg/Challenge Dungeon) so they cant just make all 7-8 of them reappear quite so easily.

Edited by Themes, 22 June 2015 - 06:24 PM.

[Ambur]

Ah I see. Those mobs weren't so bad after they got fixed. For scaraba we just did lex -> fist -> inn -> repeat. Quicker than ants and I sucked at finding Maya. I think there was some other party methods/solo ways though. But if they are completely gone then I dunno. Just hope it doesn't take as long to fix up quest quirks this time.

[Ramses]

Themes, where can we find the drop info you just showed?.

[Naman18Tandon]

Oda, please add banana beret, magic eyes, neko Mimi, gelato hat, orange in mouth to boxter .
Your loving,
Chicken

[Pika]

Event

Going to test past anniversary quests for compatability, any particular ones you want to see brought back?

 

Well, the best All-in-One pre-Renewal Anniversary Event was during the 6th Anniversary back in 2009. It's a kill-count/fetching quest for a plethora of past Anniversary Event headgear rewards (those from 2005~2008) and also a brand new one for 2009 itself after completing the 4 parts quest that was implemented on a weekly basis.

 

From my record, the rewards for Anniversary Events were as follows:

 

Pre-Renewal

2004: Nile Rose [1]

2005: Baseball Cap [1]

2006: (sorry, my memory failed me at this one)

2007: Pirate Dagger

2008: Brown Paper Bag Hat & Purple Cowboy Hat [1]

2009: Crown of Deceit [1] (also the return of Brown Paper Bag Hat, Purple Cowboy Hat [1], Pirate Dagger, Baseball Cap [1])

2010: Crown of Deceit [1] (updated effects), Brown Paper Bag Hat, Purple Cowboy Hat [1], Pirate Dagger, Baseball Cap [1])

Renewal hits main servers

 

Renewal

2011: Yggdrasil Crown

 

Classic

2012: None (Classic was launched on 29th June 2012, around 10:30pm PST)

2013: Vintage Orc Helm [1] & Ethereal Orc Boots (part of Poring Festival Event)

2014: Red Beret

2015: (still pending)

 

So its up to the GMs to see if which of those quests would you guys like to bring back to the servers, as for the choice of rewards... I think it's best we get a vote by show of hands, some headgear rewards may be a sensitive issue among the community.

 

On another note, I'd like to thank the GMs for referring to my list of old headgears to be implemented into the Lucky Box, you guys are almost there, just remember to consult the community to see if they actually wanted those headgears.

 

Postscript

Personal request:

1) Can we get the Hunter's Cap [1] made unbound?

2) Also, mind looking into the issue of the Kafra Stacker not properly stacking the Job (Battle) Manuals?

3) Would like to ask that the angry mobs invading Izlude as part of the Talk like a Pirate's Day quest be moved to invade Byalan Island instead? New players are finding it hard to get their Novices into the Swordman Guild for job changing purposes.

 

Guess that's all for now, thank you GMs and also the community for keeping the server alive and kicking.

Edited by Pika, 23 June 2015 - 12:16 AM.

[Xandyzor]

Put this in Boxter:

 

Banana Beret

Neko Mimi Kafra

Magic Eyes

Orange in Mouth

Gelato Hat

[Naman18Tandon]

Put this in Boxter:

Banana Beret
Neko Mimi Kafra
Magic Eyes
Orange in Mouth
Gelato Hat

The love!

[Themes]

Themes, where can we find the drop info you just showed?.

 

It's here. I'm waiting on Oda to give us a list of item name to itemID lists the way he did with monsters before I update the irowiki classic db. But soon as I get that it should be fairly easy to do.

[Oda]

Please look at changing the quest Morroc map (moc_fild21) to no longer be PvP. People have been using the BG blues on the map to farm there and it's a little bit silly.

 

 

Sure, we'll check that out. Not an intended behavior. 

[AlmrOfAtlas]

Sure, we'll check that out. Not an intended behavior. 

 

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Gn1ydnu]

Event

Going to test past anniversary quests for compatability, any particular ones you want to see brought back?

 

Spare Cards

[Pika]

Event

Going to test past anniversary quests for compatability, any particular ones you want to see brought back?

 

Spare Cards

 

I really like those Spare Cards too, its a shame that there were some bot abuse issues linked to the use and effect of the headgear.

 

Also, its was from April's Fool 2009 Event and not from a past Anniversary Event.

Edited by Pika, 23 June 2015 - 08:43 PM.

[kruim21]

make Icaru wing obtainable plz

[Psicratus]

 

Postscript

Personal request:

1) Can we get the Hunter's Cap [1] made unbound?

2) Also, mind looking into the issue of the Kafra Stacker not properly stacking the Job (Battle) Manuals?

3) Would like to ask that the angry mobs invading Izlude as part of the Talk like a Pirate's Day quest be moved to invade Byalan Island instead? New players are finding it hard to get their Novices into the Swordman Guild for job changing purposes.

 

Guess that's all for now, thank you GMs and also the community for keeping the server alive and kicking.

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The new players - to whom i'm sure you spend a lot of time talking to and listening to their needs and views of the world - are indeed having serious issues on becoming swordman when there is a NPC that takes you automatically to inside the guild.

I'm sure your charitable heart also aches for those dedicated players that keep dieing on the respawn point, yet they keep sitting and don't say a word, then go to work at byalan island.

 

[TsubasaWingz]

^
It is indeed too late to change anything now but the GMs should have at least learned to tweak the quest a little as this isn't anything new. It happened back in 2012 when the quest was first implemented.

What I would like to respond to the poster above is that aren't we desperately looking for more new players to join the server? We shouldn't be punishing low leveled players for what a few botters are doing on the servers.

I, on one hand, do not believe that botters will resort to ask for real players to help clear the mobs to ease their bot farming activities. I'm pretty sure bot farmers are those with secret fully geared main characters that can help them clean the maps if they wanted to or if they don't have that, they will just resort to waiting for the GMs to take the event off when they are scheduled to end.

On the other hand, I believe that not all new players know prefectly well which direction or where to head to when they start the game, couldn't we just give them the benefit of the doubt? They may very well be desperately wanting to get into the swordman guild, who knows? Are we going to shake them off because they have no fancy gears or be of significant use in the meantime? I seriuosly hope the community has more compassion than that.

[Oda]

The monsters also spawn in Alberta, in a specific area near the docks. The map is large enough to be avoidable, whereas monsters spawning in Izlude is not. 

[iROLee]

I know it is a delicate topic, but given the considerable inflow of new players we recently welcomed from Malaysia and the Philippines, we might want to start talking about WoE times again. The WoE population has hardly changed and I just caught Asian players talking about how they just couldn't attend WoE at 3am.

Then again they'll speak for themselves if need be, but I thought it was worth bringing up.

 

[forestdrums]

Indian Feather Headband stats don't work (cards don't recognize its slotted, the agi+2 and def is also not given) is this intended or can it be fixed? I think the hat's item number is 18660

Please and thank you! :$

Edited by forestdrums, 24 June 2015 - 07:34 AM.

[OccultPriest]

bring voh back

[mussa255]

hello

is there maintenance right now ?

 

i am asking because the game doesnt run on my pc i am new player

 

i download the game and instal it and try to run it but it didnt run

 

please gm or player help me