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[Arvz69]

Good day. 

 

 

It's so unfair to those people who farms real hard for almost a day just to get the stuff that they wanted, while some other guys are just duplicating items, BASICS to be specific.

 

 

Before I hit the sack, I usually check the market for basics, then i noticed this guy. He used to buy "spiritual drops" for 20 gold and sell basics for 14 ~ 16 gold each. I took an eye on him for about a week, checking his market from time to time, whenever he goes online. 

 

 

Down below is a photo of his store, always restocking basics. 

 

 

People who farm hard, will never sell basics that cheap, unless he or she's on a rush, or..... 

 

 

 

Please enlighten me, Cuz I've read a post, that duplicating items are not possible, but how can you explain this. 

 

 

[Fliederduft78]

 

 

People who farm hard, will never sell basics that cheap, unless he or she's on a rush, or.....

.... multiclienting to the finest...and a bit of farming this way.....  

 

 

 

 

 

Poppie says duplicating items isn't possible. He just stated this recently in another topic again. I do believe him. Cause in all the cases he did say something, anything, it always has been the truth. And was based on knowledge and/or background information given to him by the staff.

He never lied to us, not one single time ......or did something do behind our backs.

Edited by Fliederduft78, 01 July 2015 - 12:01 PM.

[Coolsam]

Is it duping? Unlikely as any revealed method or exploit for duping was supposedly fixed and unable to be reproduced. Yes a GM even attempted said exploits or attempted to rediscover any new exploits.

 

However if a guy went with scripts and 4-clients and spammed the holy mother -_- out of elements in world record time for 100+ runs a day? Definitely possible to have that many basics in the end.

[Arvz69]

.... multiclienting to the finest...and a bit of farming this way.....  

 

 

 

 

 

Poppie says duplicating items isn't possible. He just stated this recently in another topic again. I do believe him. Cause in all the cases he did say something, anything, it always has been the truth. And was based on knowledge and/or background information given to him by the staff.

He never lied to us, not one single time ......or did something do behind our backs.

 

 

Well according to the seller, he farmed those basics for about 3 weeks. Imagine 3 weeks of farming even if he doesn't sleep he cant stack basics that much. 

 

And he said something about extracting basics on spiritual drops.

 

For instance 500 fire spiritual drops = 500 SURE fire element basics. 

[Fliederduft78]

However if a guy went with scripts and 4-clients and spammed the holy mother  out of elements in world record time for 100+ runs a day? Definitely possible to have that many basics in the end.

 

That is what I meant. 

by saying : multiclienting to the finest

 

I just did not want to point it out detailed like this. To prevent any possible harm.

But yes, I agree to this 100%. 

Edited by Fliederduft78, 01 July 2015 - 12:11 PM.

[StormHaven]

As sam pointed out his is most likely someone abusing multiclienting and running scripts. Even extracting elements spiritual drops a lvl1 spiritual has a 10% chance,, lvl3 30% chance etc etc, it would've taken thousands upon thousands and a rate no normal player could do.

 

edit: Be sure to send in a ticket about this, if it's legit then nothing will happen, if not then you've done a great job

Edited by StormHaven, 01 July 2015 - 12:12 PM.

[reqt]

Everyone seems to focus on how he got the basics. But missed the point that he bought spirit drops for 20g and even if he can magically do 100% extract rate, why would he sell them at 15g at a loss. Something fishy is going on here

[drops1]

the fact is " we just couldn't accept the fact that this player can farm far beyond our limits ( whole day farming ) everyday " .. I myself can farm 3 hrs per day and get tired ..   

 

regarding  his/her price , well its up to him/her if he/she sells it for 1g ea.. 

Edited by drops1, 01 July 2015 - 03:05 PM.

[Arvz69]

the fact is " we just couldn't accept the fact that this player can farm far beyond our limits ( whole day farming ) everyday " .. I myself can farm 3 hrs per day and get tired ..   

 

regarding  his/her price , well its up to him/her if he/she sells it for 1g ea.. 

 

Dude read before you react. Are you aware of farming basics? 3 weeks of farming basics? Even if you dont sleep for 3 weeks you cant stack basics that much. I, myself farm everyday for about 16 hours, this game is eating me...

Edited by Arvz69, 01 July 2015 - 03:29 PM.

[drops1]

Dude read before you react. Are you aware of farming basics? 3 weeks of farming basics? Even if you dont sleep for 3 weeks you cant stack basics that much. I, myself farm everyday for about 16 hours, this game is eating me...

 

bruh , this player just keeping his/her basics for a long time and keep farming until now then sell it when he/she thinks that this is the right time to sell " same like the bloodies issue " LOOL open ur mind bruh  

 

Think before u react             

Edited by drops1, 01 July 2015 - 03:34 PM.

[Arvz69]

bruh , this player just keeping his/her basics for a long time and keep farming until now then sell it when he/she thinks that this is the right time to sell " same like the bloodies issue " LOOL open ur mind bruh  

 

Think before u react             

 

Bruh read carefully, as i've said he farmed those basics for 3 weeks only, 3 weeks... 

 

I think you're the one who's not open minded here. 

 

Then again "read before you react." 

Edited by Arvz69, 01 July 2015 - 03:38 PM.

[drops1]

3 weeks and u believe?? LOOL what if , if i say i have ero's set in my inventory ?? Will u believe?? ..... Now did u get my point??         

[Fliederduft78]

Is it duping? Unlikely as any revealed method or exploit for duping was supposedly fixed and unable to be reproduced. Yes a GM even attempted said exploits or attempted to rediscover any new exploits.

 

However if a guy went with scripts and 4-clients and spammed the holy mother out of elements in world record time for 100+ runs a day? Definitely possible to have that many basics in the end.

 

 

As sam pointed out his is most likely someone abusing multiclienting and running scripts. Even extracting elements spiritual drops a lvl1 spiritual has a 10% chance,, lvl3 30% chance etc etc, it would've taken thousands upon thousands and a rate no normal player could do.

 

edit: Be sure to send in a ticket about this, if it's legit then nothing will happen, if not then you've done a great job

 

There is the reason you are looking for pointed out quite well. 

 

If you do heavily multiclienting, including bots (bot groups), scripts etc.........you are able to farm the amount you are talking about in less than one week  sadly.  Even more, I'm not gonna lie on this.  I do not support this in any way, nor do I think it is fair (or should be possible at all). Plus if the player does get caught by a GM doing this stuff he/she can for sure say bye bye to all accounts of him/her....just saying. Cause the use of any third party tool is forbidden and will result in actions being taken (ban is very possible).

[Arvz69]

3 weeks and u believe?? LOOL what if , if i say i have ero's set in my inventory ?? Will u believe?? ..... Now did u get my point??         

 

Bro im talking about 100 stacks, not just those stacks in the photo. 

 

And to answer if i believe to his statement, ofc not. I wouldnt be here if i do. 

 

 

Edited by Arvz69, 01 July 2015 - 05:06 PM.

[Likku382]

I believe you have a valid point of argument here, and I myself have been keeping an eye on his market. With this, I clarify that I have spent roughly 150k in purchasing his basics, and yes it continues to being restocked. But what I have noticed is, the fire basic that I have bought from him doesn't get restocked nor does he have more, same applies to ice. If this was a duping method, he would have an excessive amount of all elements instead of just nature. And ps: why would you dupe an item that only cost 14g each if you could inject the same method into something that rewards you much nicer? Ie: duping aram's belt ( if dungeon rewards ). Duping insurances ( if market injection ) and duping gold ( if trade dupes ). So to conclude these, I do believe there is no duping involved but at the same time the source of his basics should be looked into. And yes, I have verified weeks ago that he doesn't have any more fire elements.

[drops1]

Bro im talking about 100 stacks, not just those stacks in the photo. 

 

And to answer if i believe to his statement, ofc not. I wouldnt be here if i do. 

 

now u changed the subject " 3 weeks" LOOL ... What happen to the " 3 weeks that u have been insisting " ??     

Edited by drops1, 01 July 2015 - 10:48 PM.

[drops1]

I believe you have a valid point of argument here, and I myself have been keeping an eye on his market. With this, I clarify that I have spent roughly 150k in purchasing his basics, and yes it continues to being restocked. But what I have noticed is, the fire basic that I have bought from him doesn't get restocked nor does he have more, same applies to ice. If this was a duping method, he would have an excessive amount of all elements instead of just nature. And ps: why would you dupe an item that only cost 14g each if you could inject the same method into something that rewards you much nicer? Ie: duping aram's belt ( if dungeon rewards ). Duping insurances ( if market injection ) and duping gold ( if trade dupes ). So to conclude these, I do believe there is no duping involved but at the same time the source of his basics should be looked into. And yes, I have verified weeks ago that he doesn't have any more fire elements.

 

well said

[UraharaStore]

Is it duping? Unlikely as any revealed method or exploit for duping was supposedly fixed and unable to be reproduced. Yes a GM even attempted said exploits or attempted to rediscover any new exploits.

 

However if a guy went with scripts and 4-clients and spammed the holy mother out of elements in world record time for 100+ runs a day? Definitely possible to have that many basics in the end.

Well said, I bought 7 stacks from him and he came back with 5 stacks a day later. Please farm me 4 stacks a day coolsam.

[UraharaStore]

.... multiclienting to the finest...and a bit of farming this way.....  

 

 

 

 

 

Poppie says duplicating items isn't possible. He just stated this recently in another topic again. I do believe him. Cause in all the cases he did say something, anything, it always has been the truth. And was based on knowledge and/or background information given to him by the staff.

He never lied to us, not one single time ......or did something do behind our backs.

Tell him where did shane get stacks of 6* ice nature resist and attack from?

[Fliederduft78]

Tell him where did shane get stacks of 6* ice nature resist and attack from?

 

I trust in Poppie's statements. 

 

With lots and lots of multiclienting, scripts, bots even this is possible. You just have to "farm" lots , or better open lots of boxes. What is very possible if you got lots of those and that - is -possible if you do it the way different users have mentioned already.

Like I said I don't understand why there is no rule against such crap. 

 

 

bruh , this player just keeping his/her basics for a long time and keep farming until now then sell it when he/she thinks that this is the right time to sell " same like the bloodies issue "

This ^ is very well possible too. Just replace basics with whatever item it is. Sadly very possible. 

Combined with multiclienting of course, I forgot to mention that.

 

 

But however live and let live. 

Edited by Fliederduft78, 02 July 2015 - 12:33 AM.

[UraharaStore]

I trust in Poppie's statements. 

 

With lots and lots of multiclienting, scripts, bots even this is possible. You just have to "farm" lots , or better open lots of boxes. What is very possible if you got lots of those and that - is -possible if you do it the way different users have mentioned already.

Like I said I don't understand why there is no rule against such crap. 

 

This ^ is very well possible too. Just replace basics with whatever item it is. Sadly very possible. 

 

 

But however live and let live. 

 Who would waste basics on g6 6*s? and farm ur whole life u won't even get 3 stacks of g6 6*s.

[UraharaStore]

If it is the right time to sell why would he/she put it at 14 or 15 gold?  he or she must be dumb as rock?

[Homurasan]

Oh, right, botting. These basics can really well be farmed in no time with enough characters, such as three computers with 4 characters each. Disable any sort of graphical effect, reduce windows' size to 100x100, done ; you can farm for the night.

[drops1]

If it is the right time to sell why would he/she put it at 14 or 15 gold?  he or she must be dumb as rock?

why dont u ask the seller? LOOOL

[Elijazz]

I checked his store again and I was amazed because it looks like it was doubled...