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#1 savvy11481111

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:09 AM

Hi all,

 

I have currently a Gx that i'm having problems with, I don't know which to use nor what card to put in these knives.

 

I currently have:

+13 Isabella

+4 Sapha (crit17) porcellio

Pegs Ear Wings

Adv Sin Mask

+9 i.Faw (aspd/aspd/fatal4)

+9 T.Luk (AD/LD)

2 x Bako.

RWC Ring (FS1 :x)

 

Weaps:

+12 FQL [empty, Aunoe]

+12 RWC Memory Knife [1]

offhand: icepick(sharp8)

 

Assuming I can get 193 aspd even with RWC Ring, does anyone know how the +12FQL will stack up against

a +12 Memory knife? assuming the FQL has (Drake/Aunoe) and Memory Knife (maybe AK/Aunoe?)

 

Anyone tried?

so far, when my Memory knife procs Weap Perfection, the damage is pretty close to the FQL.

would it be the case if I card my Memory Knife with Aunoe, and FQL with drake, they're gonna do

roughly the same damage? :D

 

any inputs?

Thanks in advance guys!

 

p.s: oh btw does anyone know what a +12 RWC Memory Knife sells for?

 


Edited by savvy11481111, 30 July 2015 - 09:12 AM.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:18 AM

I have a fql with drake card and it does a lot more damage than a double titan fql against large enemies, so it seems really good to me. I didn't see havenn using drake in his setup though so I am not positive its the best choice, gx isn't my forte.
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:28 AM

and the RWC memory knife (even if carded Aunoe/AK) is gonna lose to the FQL by a lot im guessing?

 

Prolly time to find a drake for my FQL xD


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:33 AM

I don't think rwc knife rates very well against a +12 fql under any circumstances we you have a lot of str stat on a character.
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:34 AM

guess its time to sell the Memory knife then xD


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:35 AM

Aw I'd keep that its useful for leveling new characters, especially mage types since rwc knife is better than any nontrans wand
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:36 AM

*looks at topic title*

*looks at Jaye's GX ranking*

*raises an eyebrow*


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:36 AM

oooo, never occurred to me! but I need z for that drake! LOL


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:38 AM

^_^

Though I am more so telling about my experience with +12 drake fql and +12 rwc knife than gx :v
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:42 AM

i'm sorry I didn't quite understand that.

 

^_^

Though I am more so telling about my experience with +12 drake fql and +12 rwc knife than gx :v

 


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:44 AM

Aw I'd keep that its useful for leveling new characters, especially mage types since rwc knife is better than any nontrans wand


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:52 AM

I use +12 Drake/AK FQL versus all large MVP (besides demi-human), +12 2xAK FQL is a little better vs medium than drake/AK but I wouldn't bother carrying both. On small, 2xAK is obviously the best.

 

I use +12 Glorious Gladius for all demi-human regardless of size, it always wins.

 

I've never actually used an RWC memory knife, the low wAtk and single card slot kinda were meh for me. 

 

+13 isabella is nice, definitely one of the best for anything with 1m HP or lower. After that I like +12 Drooping Eddga, since it's a huge damage push. (my crits go from 90k to 150k when it procs)


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:53 AM

how do u achieve 193aspd with a +12 eddga? xD


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:13 AM

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:31 AM

Consumables, +ASPD daggers (Soheon card) or enchants


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:32 AM

193 aspd is not hard with a +12 eddga, supposing you are using it along with other aspd gears/agi foods. But if you are aiming for pure crit mods and also 193 aspd, you will definitely have hard times achieving both.

 

Assuming your alt+q is something like this as follows (for damage optimization):

 

+12 Eddga

daggers with Racial / Elemental / Crit / ATK mods (no aspd cards)

FAW (Max Fatal) (no aspd)

Temporal Luk (no agi/aspd enchants)

2 RWC / 2 megs (no bakos)

 

If your gx is wearing all these gears I mentioned, forget about the 193 aspd. You can set 120-130 agi and use all kinds of agi foods available in the market. Still you won't reach 193 aspd.

That's why you need to balance your build. Some of your crit gears should be replaced by aspd. Where are you going to make this change? That's totally up to you. e.g: edga by Isabella or temp luk by temp agi and etc

 

You can disregard what I just said If you have access to a Lord Knight card (The MVP one). It will give you some aspd, allowing you to focus more on crit mods.

But unless you are really willing to spend 50-70 billions on your gx, I wouldn't recommend buying one. Also, It only worth using against MVPs with 3m+ HP.

 

Good luck.

 

 


Edited by Richkr, 30 July 2015 - 11:45 AM.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:47 AM

^ or you know, befriend alt-ing a shadow chaser. I heard that their bloodlust skill also mimic the frenzy effect :3


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:48 AM

Everyone needs to friend a wanderer for swing dance maybe! U_u wanderers need love
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:53 AM

:v nope thanks. I dont want to go near that broken hips. 


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:29 PM

:heh:

^ or you know, befriend alt-ing a shadow chaser. I heard that their bloodlust skill also mimic the frenzy effect :3

 

I thought about this max a gx/ranger with full crit mod and use a SC alt for frenzy....but im lazy :heh: 
 


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:58 PM

RWC knife its a "viable" option as gx weapon, but is easily surpassed by even Scalpel due to the lack of slots, as well as consuming 1 acc slot with the non sloted ring. And its mandatory for it to be a right hand weapon.

 The combos of weapon th​at u want to pair is:

Strong main hand + 4 slotted offhand = low def enemies
Strong main​​ hand + Ice Pick = medium/high def
Ice pick + 4 slotted =​ Really high def. This one is also an option for medium def enemies of big size, if u dont have access to Drake


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:51 PM

thx for the input guys! time to look for a drake card xD


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 12:21 AM

RWC knife its a "viable" option as gx weapon, but is easily surpassed by even Scalpel due to the lack of slots, as well as consuming 1 acc slot with the non sloted ring. And its mandatory for it to be a right hand weapon.

 The combos of weapon th​at u want to pair is:

Strong main hand + 4 slotted offhand = low def enemies
Strong main​​ hand + Ice Pick = medium/high def
Ice pick + 4 slotted =​ Really high def. This one is also an option for medium def enemies of big size, if u dont have access to Drake

 

or you can do a memory of thanatos card and kill everything that moves =P
 


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 06:02 AM

Some asked me for advice on thanatos card in a dagger. If you're all in on GX I suppose you could do that, it is probably 20-30% more DPS than an ice pick easily.

 

but for me, I'd rather use thanatos on a class that'll see more like a 100% increase in DPS (ranger is an example).


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 06:18 AM

Just to clarify Jaye, since I don't have either the skills nor the characters (got no ranger) to do this

 

In the case of soloing MVPs are you saying a maxed out GX will lose to a maxed out ranger in terms of DPS?


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