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#1 TheronMoscow

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:07 AM

First let us take a look at the descriptions below, note that this was made by other players who play on kRO.
 
Worn out Rune Circlet[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1, MDEF +5
+4 ATK per refine
+1 ASPD per 5 refine
+1% MSP per 2 refine
+1020% Iginition Break damage per 2 refine
+1015% Hundred Spears damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Rune Knight
 
Worn out Mitra[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1, MDEF +5
+2 MATK, +2% Heal Amount per refine
+4 ATK per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1020% Judex damage per 2 refine
+10% Magnus Exorcismus damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Arch Bishop
 
Worn out Driver Band[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+4 ATK per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1 ASPD per 5 refine
+10% Arms Cannon 20% Power Swing damage per 2 refine
+1020% Axe Tornado damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Mechanic
 
Worn out Driver Band[1](Yellow)
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+4 ATK per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1 ASPD per 5 refine
+105% Arms Cannon damage per 2 refine
+10% Axe Tornado damage per 2 refine Reduce Suicidal Destruction cooldown by 10 second per 4 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Mechanic
 
Worn out Shadow Crown[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+4 ATK, +4 MATK per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1025% Triangle Shot damage per 2 refine
Masquerade-Unlucky, Masquerade-Enervation's Cooldown -1 sec per 6 refine
Masquerade-Laziness, Masquerade-Weakness's Cooldown -1 sec per 8 refine
Masquerade-Ignorance, Masquerade-Groomy's Cooldown -1 sec per 10 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Shadow Chaser
 
Worn out Mistrel Hat[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+1 Ranged Damage per 2 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+105% Arrow Vulcan damage per 2 refine
+10% Great Echo 20% Severe Rainstorm damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Maestro
 
Worn out Whisper of Midas[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+4 ATK per refine
+1 Ranged Damage per 2 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1015% Cart Cannon damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Geneticist
 
Worn out Magic Stone Hat[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1, MDEF+5, 20% sp regen increase
+1% MATK per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+105% Soul Expansion damage per 2 refine
Crimson Rock reuse delay -1 sec,
Additionally, reuse delay will decreased depending on refine level(not specified yet) by 0.1 second per refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Warlock
 
Worn out Wind Whisper[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1, MDEF +5
+1% MATK, ATK+4 per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1015% Poison Buster damage per 2 refine
+1020% Varetyr Spear
 damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Sorcerer
 
Worn out Blazing Soul[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+4 ATK, +2 Cri per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1 ASPD per 5 refine
+1015% Rampage Blaster damage per 2 refine
+1020% Lightening Ride damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Sura
 
Worn out Dying Swan[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+1 Ranged Damage per 2 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+105% Arrow Vulcan damage per 2 refine
+10% Great Echo 20% Severe Rainstorm damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Wanderer
 
Worn out Bone Circlet[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+1% Critial Damage, 1% aspd per refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+10% Cross Impact damage per 2 refine
+1020% Cross Ripper Slash damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Guillotine Cross
 
Worn out Crown of Defender[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1, MDEF +5
+4 ATK per refine
+1 ASPD per 5 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1020% Cannon Spear damage per 2 refine
[Level 1]Vanishing Point(if you have higher level, it will proc that) Auto Casting Proc.
HIgher Refinement level will increase chance of auto casting Vanishing Point. +5% Overbrand damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Royal Guard
 
Worn Out Camoflaged Bunny Hood[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+1 Ranged Damage per 2 refine
+1 pDodge per 3 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1015% Cluster Bomb damage per 2 refine
+10% Warg Strike damage per 2 refine
 
Type: Upper headgear
Def: 10
Weight: 10
Lvl Req: 170
Class: Ranger
 
It is quite clear that all over classes get a minimum increment of 10% for every 2 refine. whereas for Warlock, soul expansion is already weak as it is, and now it is further nerfed to only 5% for every 2 refine? let's just say I upgrade mine to +10, that's a measly +25%.
why this unfairness?
The mechanic's headgear had a slight reduction in damage but that was replaced by an even better cooldown.
Soul Expansion is a skill that does not have much matk% and only deals decent damage on ghost and undead elemental monsters.
perhaps Oda or Campitor will see this and reconsider leaving the old mechanics in.
asking for a +10% for every 2 refine is not too much.
I seek the constructive opinion of other players on this as well as their support should they find my cause just.

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#2 Kadelia

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:19 AM

Actually soul expansion is uber strong. I recommend posting in mage forum if you need tips on maximizing your usage of the skill.
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#3 Hissis

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:24 AM

Cause SE is OP after 175? Cause on kRO u can see WL's doing 999k using Soul Expansion(999k on mvp's of course).

 

at least ur class have a useful headgear(they forgot expanded classes AGAIN)

 


Edited by Hissis, 30 July 2015 - 11:25 AM.

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#4 Ashuckel

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 11:58 AM

because of this

 

 


Edited by Ashuckel, 30 July 2015 - 12:00 PM.

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#5 ChakriGuard

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:00 PM

I can surely assure you that there are less than 10 RGs in iRO who have ever used Cannon spear  :pif:

That +5% OB sounds powerful though :D

 

Actually I have seen 1 RG who has levelled with Cannon spear in TI  :heh:


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#6 mikayel

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:10 PM

MFW 193 ASPD on a warlock


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#7 YangeWenli

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:20 PM

lol I didn't even notice the 193 aspd till you mentioned wouldn't normally look at caster mage aspd  :heh:


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:24 PM

Because i want to play as rune knight with a sword again and not a shi,tty. yoshi builder.

 


Edited by 6773131031232342973, 30 July 2015 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:01 PM


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:10 PM

 

how is this even possible???  #Havenn get your ass here =P)


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 04:46 PM

I feel like meg/meg/sleipnir/bio5 headgear are involved as well as maybe that OP shadow gear set that does icepick effect?


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 06:40 PM

 

and people still see fun mvping :heh: :heh: :heh: :heh:
 


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 07:23 PM

how is this even possible???  #Havenn get your ass here =P)

Being permanent over 300k is the gene hat constantly boosting CC, other than that, with not too much op gears i've gotten some 250k CC already during eddga+ RM proc


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#14 Mulder1

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 07:51 PM

SE is one of the few Warlock Skills that gets a bonus from the 175 level plus with the right gear/build it can deal quite a lot of damage to either demi human (WoE) or monsters in general.

 

 

 


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 12:06 AM

because of this

 

We don't even have those gear in iRO. How can SE be OP in this server. :hmm:


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 12:18 AM

because of this

 

+16 Headgear? /ok


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:16 AM

Let me tell you their gears

They're EXTREMELY RICH.

 

because of this

 

 

+16 Old Magic Stone Hat[Unknown]

 

Black Devil Mask [Kiel]

 

Scarlet Rose (Atk+1%, Matk+1%, MSP+30)

 

+7 Flattering Robe

(Matk + 50
When character base level is 120 of higher, add an additional Matk + 50
When character base level is 140 of higher, add an additional Matk + 50)

http://forums.irowik...&postcount=1553

[Professor Card]

 

+10 Sunflower Boy

(Int + 5
Matk + 300
Matk + 1% every 2 refine
Reduces cast delay of all skills by 1% every refine)

http://forums.irowik...&postcount=1596

[2 Ancient Tree]

 

+9 Fallen Angel Wing [Gioia]

 

+12 Temporal Int Boots [Sealed FBH]

 

2 x Pendant of Maelstrom

(ATK + 6%, MATK + 6%.
All State + 1)

[Elvira]

 

Because i want to play as rune knight with a sword again and not a shi,tty. yoshi builder.

 

 

+12 Eddga Doll Hat

(Str+2, Dex+2, Has a chance to turn wearer into 'Eddga' when attacking. In Eddga form, increase Atk by (25 x refine rate))

[Unknown]

 

Black Devil Mask [Phylla]

 

Ganster Scarf

 

Bryn

 

+10 Lindy Hop

(Atk + 1% every 2 refine
Aspd + 1% every refine)

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[2 White Knight]

 

+9 HBP [Petal]

 

+9 Temporal Luk Boots with Lucky Day

 

2 x Bakonawa Tattoo

 

Shadow

 

Critical Shadow Armor

 

Blitz Shadow Shield and Shoes, Both of them grant him ASPD+5

 

Penetration Shadow Earring and Pendant

 

Holy Water Shadow Weapon, when equipped with Penetration Shadow Earring and Pendant and the sum of refine rate of set is 25 or higher, ignore defense of Undead race monster completely.

 

 

 


Edited by Sigma1, 31 July 2015 - 06:30 AM.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:29 AM

how is this even possible???  #Havenn get your ass here =P)

 

Worn out Whisper of Midas[1]
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All Stat +1
+4 ATK per refine
+1 Ranged Damage per 2 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1015% Cart Cannon damage per 2 refine
 
+12 is 96% damage increase...
 
You think RK's are bad in woe.
Wait till they get replaced by genetics with CC howl crazyvines .... the list goes on

Edited by IronFist, 31 July 2015 - 03:30 AM.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:36 AM

Actually soul expansion is uber strong.

 

True. I'm the ghostbuster during our ET runs.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:41 AM

 

Worn out Whisper of Midas[1]
Account Bound
All Stat +1
+4 ATK per refine
+1 Ranged Damage per 2 refine
+1 MHP,MSP per 2 refine
+1015% Cart Cannon damage per 2 refine
 
+12 is 96% damage increase...
 
You think RK's are bad in woe.
Wait till they get replaced by genetics with CC howl crazyvines .... the list goes on

 

 

at least Howl is almost useless if u have high LUK

 

at least genes dont have 200k HP,high DEF/MDEF,immunity to hits,immunity to negative status


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 08:58 AM

at least Howl is almost useless if u have high LUK

 

at least genes dont have 200k HP,high DEF/MDEF,immunity to hits,immunity to negative status

 

Surprisingly enough, I find that most gens are more tankies than RKs in WoE :P

 


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 09:18 AM

Surprisingly enough, I find that most gens are more tankies than RKs in WoE :P

 

 

cause RK's just DB DB DB DB DB DB hahhaha

 

they forgot about RUNE

 

but a CC gene need damage gears,so... they will die in 1 hit without  SAC RG.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:01 PM

Its cuz genes use full woe set, RKs use temporal dex boots, this makes u die incredibly fast if u dont have a tao


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:35 PM

And thats why Gen > RK /gg
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Posted 01 August 2015 - 01:10 AM

still wondering why tetra vortex not affected by base level. ultimate skills rendered useless
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