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[Nightglide]

This is my first SC and it is currently at lvl.102

I would like to make a decent Bow SC that can solo however there doesnt seem to be enough guide for them online.

I made a few research and it seems the best obtion for them is to have either Arrow Storm or Storm Gust builds, but is there other options other than this?

 

Below is my current Stats and skills. I have level 2 Triangle Shot.

I still dont have the correct gears but i am working on buying a proper gear for Bow build.

[Kadelia]

Your stats are similar to my own pvm chaser (high dex/agi). You can do high attack speed with snake head/chick hat for double attack, and use intimidate to copy heal. Double strafe from your stalker skill points, and reproduce arrow storm. At a higher level, you could instead reproduce severe rainstorm, but you'll need to prep yourself for the heavy SP cost.

[Nightglide]

How do i get around with the sp? It is always a problem and it always makes be think of switching to dagger build.

Edited by Nightglide, 05 August 2015 - 12:08 AM.

[DeadIntern]

Well, using a +9 Vanagrand and getting an Incubus pet will certainly help. And if you can afford it, using mental potion will help to ease the SP cost.

 

Or if you're rich, Pharaoh Card XD

[hotel]

first of all, i'd recommend you drop triangle shot and the bow line of skills completely. a 'bow' chaser is pretty much only a leveling build with arrow storm. unless you're experienced and well funded and are playing around with a niche build, triangle shot will do virtually nothing for you. it's sad, but true.

 

that said, if you still intend to pursue the build you'll need a high refine catapult and 120 agi for half decent damage. you'll want to stack as many ranged modifiers as possible since triangle shot has a terrible base level atk modifier, and bear in mind it's a single target skill so you won't be able to level with it. also note that it has a half second delay so you'll need to be in strings for good dps, or own kiel cards. another thing - don't ever bother ctrl clicking stuff since your auto attack damage will be garbage, even at 193 aspd. the agi is purely for triangle shot damage and it helps with animation delay in strings.

 

regardless of whether you decide to keep triangle shot or not, if you intend to level with arrow storm (as you should) i would recommend you invest in leveling gears instead. get a +9 rwh and incubus pet to help combat the high sp cost; if you have the money a +9 vanargand would be even better. for weapon you should aim for a high refine orc archer bow with steel arrows for the +50% ranged damage bonus. a porcellio carded armour, the bsb combo and fs rwc rings are other good options to stack flat atk. an ea10 menblatt faw would be the best garment. you could also try temporal boots, although i can't really comment on them since i don't have experience using them on an arrow storm chaser. you might also want spell rwc pendants to reduce cast time, especially for soloing.

 

there are really only two good places for you to solo at, either nogg road 2 or niflheim. intimidating aspersio from a priest will help you one shot at both places. once you get past around level 120 soloing becomes incredibly inefficient since you won't be able to one shot much at all, and tanking the mob for the 3 seconds it takes to AS again is not practical.

 

if you want to continue soloing at this stage the easiest build to reset to is an ignition break build. you don't need as specialised gear for this and you can stay in scaraba hall 2 until you hit 150~160 quite easily. other popular options include an auto shadow spell build, which is expensive and more for fun than anything else, a severe rainstorm build, better damage than arrow storm but an extremely unforgiving sp cost, and a blaze shield/psychic wave build, effective but also supply intensive and requiring constant gear switching.

 

if your end game purpose for this character is woe/pvp, you can reset to a dex/int/vit build with jack frost/storm gust/frost nova and pull/tank in TI/bio4 parties until 175. this is probably the fastest way to 175 but it's also the least fun and it'll make you want to delete your chaser so don't do it unless you really have to.

[Kadelia]

I don't disagree that it's not optimal, but I really do like triangle shot, it' fun to play with. You can Triangle shot things in between arrow storms. Besides, the skill points don't go anywhere for a pure PVM build. since the majority of the chaser skill tree is woe/pvp stuff.

[hotel]

that's true. if you're not going to woe/pvp at all you might as well get triangle shot. and yeah, it is literally the only fun pvm skill in the entire chaser skill tree.

[Kadelia]

You brought up the catapult earlier. Have you done much testing with it? My limited dabbling with it proved disappointing. Unlike big crosswbow that gets 5% per refine, the catapult is like 2%. So it has trouble even matching an orc archer bow, much less surpassing it. Couple this with the loss of effectiveness with arrow storm/severe rainstorm, and its like "what's the point?"

[Nightglide]

Thanks for the advise, i think i will go for Orc archer bow + steel arrows and use arrow storm.

I am working on getting these items.

porcellio carded armour
Menblatt Card garment (what garment should i use?)
Incubus egg

 

I have no idea of how i can get hold of RWC 2012 Ring + Pendant and they sound like they will be expensive and all i can afford are the items above thefore its very unlikely that i can afford the rings and pendants. Is there other less pricey options for accessory?

 

Also in regards to my current stats, is this a good foundation? or should i reallocate?

Edited by Nightglide, 05 August 2015 - 03:30 PM.

[Kadelia]

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[hotel]

a few months ago i tried it with a +12 double kingbird catapult, 120 agi and 120 dex. don't remember my other equips exactly but pretty sure i had an ea10 faw, temporal dex boots ea4/hawkeye, +9 emh and fs6 rwc rings. 

 

iirc damage was like 20k~25k, 30k+ when hawkeye procced. 

[Kadelia]

a few months ago i tried it with a +12 double kingbird catapult, 120 agi and 120 dex. don't remember my other equips exactly but pretty sure i had an ea10 faw, temporal dex boots ea4/hawkeye, +9 emh and fs6 rwc rings. 

 

iirc damage was like 20k~25k, 30k+ when hawkeye procced. 

 

vs how much with orc archer bow

[hotel]

Didnt test it at the time since i only had a +9 one and assumed the damage would be less. A +12 double kingbird catapult gives 20% ranged damage and 24% triangle shot damage though (which im guessing works the same way) + its a level 4 weap so id think it would be better.

[Kadelia]

I suspect its a tiny bit better with triangle shot.

And a lot worse with everything else.

 

So not worth it IMO

[hotel]

yeah. a +12 orc archer bow would be a better all round choice.

 

if only chasers could copy edp or something lol.

[Kadelia]

fear breeze woulda been fun... or if duple light actually worked with bows... blah blah Gravity stinks

[Ashuckel]

Auto shadow spell with bows! Then thanatos bow would actually be used

[fuyukikun]

no archer use thanatos bow today since ranger stuck in bxb or elven, performer stuck with elven and upcoming storn bow, i dont see a gamebreaking disaster if we grant SC to be able to wear thanatos bow.

[Ashuckel]

I tried thanatos bow on my wanderer for more hp leech, against shadow enemies. Dmg output using silver arrows was about the same, a bit lesser than neutral elven bow+elven arrow. But since the overall dmg was low it didnt worked really well

[Kadelia]

Bow of storms will definitely be worth using for wanderer. It's a shame Chaser can't equip it, since chaser works pretty effectively with SR (aside from double SP cost).

[Ashuckel]

I already get a little mad at using 120sp, what to say 240sp with that ridiculous sp pool :/. Well, vana+incubus pet all the way

[Kadelia]

Brynhilldr and superior enhanced variants help too xP

[Ashuckel]

these rich ppl :v

[3452140212150117003]

well, i feel that i dont really have any problem with SR double sp cost. Compare to AS, SR will give you huge chance to leech back sp with the 12 hits. So +9Vana + incu is enough :s

[Nightglide]

This is my current gears, im still working on porcellio carded armor and high refined orc archer bow.

Im not sure what card i should put for the Vanargand helm so i will leave it clean for now. I am also investing on Incubus egg.