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[pdfisher]

Let me say first off, the myth that you can't skill the bosses is just that, a myth. There are ways to deal with their stuns. If you take notice, the bosses "say" things on occasion. Now look at this screen shot.

 

 

When you see this, immediately stun him. This prevents him from stunning you. I believe Sacrifice also works if done in time. I haven't tested sleep yet, but it's a thought.

Edited by pdfisher, 06 August 2015 - 04:51 PM.

[thetrangdamvn]

Let me say first off, the myth that you can't skill the bosses is just that, a myth. There are ways to deal with their stuns. If you take notice, the bosses "say" things on occasion. Now look at this screen shot.

 

 

When you see this, immediately stun him. This prevents him from stunning you. I believe Sacrifice also works if done in time. I haven't tested sleep yet, but it's a thought.

 

In fact, sleep/stun will work, but I doubt about sacrifice/ taunt as most of the time even though I cast those on my knight, the team was still stunned.

 

But there are some occasions when you're casting a skill, at nearly the same time as the boss's stun, then somehow you can bypass his skill, while the rest of the team is still stunned!

 

I also doubt if Mute works, I don't play 2H so I can't confirm this. Because I always play Knight-Katar-FS I always have 2 sleeps, 2 stuns available, so they rarely manage to stun us.
 

[Feuer]

Taunt won't work [ or shouldn't] because it doesn't 'break' the cast, it only redirects it, which it is an AoE so it would still cast [theoretically]. I'll test it myself. 

[thetrangdamvn]

Taunt won't work [ or shouldn't] because it doesn't 'break' the cast, it only redirects it, which it is an AoE so it would still cast [theoretically]. I'll test it myself. 

 

Yep, correct.

 

But Feu, could you explain why sometimes if some of us are in a middle of casting a skill, we have a chance to negate the stun, while the others still got stunned.

[Feuer]

That's a tricky one, and I'm not 100% myself either tbh. I do know what you're talking about though. 

[pdfisher]

Perhaps it doesn't have a 100% chance of success, and success is rolled for each individual? I too have had it happen where some of my team mates get stunned, and others don't. Berserk and Enraged Berserk give a 50% stun resistance. Is there any other skill that does this?

[thetrangdamvn]

Perhaps it doesn't have a 100% chance of success, and success is rolled for each individual? I too have had it happen where some of my team mates get stunned, and others don't. Berserk and Enraged Berserk give a 50% stun resistance. Is there any other skill that does this?

 

Although I don't have proof, I'm sure their stuns are at 100% chance, and in area of effect.

 

However, it's likely that due to the client-server mismatch, one can negate/ avoid the stun while casting skills (It's impossible to replicate this, it just happens)

 

It can even break into specific cases like: The whole team is stunned, you're not, but then they return to normal, you're stunned. 

 

It always happens in CoU, just not that often.

[pdfisher]

Well I do know that sometimes my enraged berserk prevents me from being stunned by him, although the rest of my team is stunned. There may be other skills which do the same thing, or perhaps someone has the stun resistance gem, so they don't get stunned? Anyway, this was so that newer people could see there is a way to bypass his stun, unless he stuns twice or more in a row.

[KatsuraKujo]

it happens to me as well when i do dungeon even with no skills or substats/bonuses about stun resistant (other than my cleric)

I still think the stun success rate isn't 100% that's why. Cuz sometimes individual even meleeing, will not get stunned while the others are stunned.

[Feuer]

CoU:

"You will fear us!" = Stun

"You cannot escape now!" = Aspeed + Mspeed down.

"Come my minions...a feast awaits you!" = summons ADS

"Taste my poison!" = Applies poisoned status

"You are powerless...puny Visitors" = Dispells buffs [debuff]

 

It looks like the stun rate simply isn't 100% stun anymore btw. 

[angeltje]

Good to remember, when ulvi talks stun him ^-^

[pdfisher]

Good to remember, when ulvi talks stun him ^-^

 

This applies to the Anansi and Arachne Recluse as well. And you don't have to stun them everytime they talk, just when they say "you will fear us".
 

[Feuer]

Or you are powerless, dispelling buffs is annoying. 

[gio2go]

secrets revealed! hahahaha.... 

be reminded that timing is also of the essence

enjoy