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#1 jochy

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:13 PM

i don't know what to do with those "extra" points as champion, anyone can give me some advice please?

 

my base build: http://irowiki.org/~...rdeDksrAab95In1

 

1 (more like pvp): http://irowiki.org/~...rdeDlfrBqo95In1 ->raging palm strike was good back on my time (think about i can become close to an enemy pnuema, he should TC or GoH lvl3 meanwhile il raging palm strike and get out him of pnueman then proc to finish with GoH lvl10), Dunno if cure is good or even the "combo" root>quadruple>thrust>glacier fist against meele (would i get chain cruhs combo for the asura lulz??)

 

2 (more like tank mvp): http://irowiki.org/~...rdeDlfrAab95In1 ->dunno how is angelus post-renewal

 

3 (more like kill mvp? demons/undead): http://irowiki.org/~...rdeDlfrAab95In1 ->dunno how is signus crussis post-renewal


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#2 ka10

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:18 PM

standard skill build

 

RPS is rather outdated as current playstyles are too fast paced for that (and the knockback doesnt happen in WoE)

 

angelus is very rare, and would rather max decrease agi like this for WoE/PvP


Edited by ka10, 29 August 2015 - 04:23 PM.

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#3 jochy

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:22 PM

i can imagine why root lvl5, but not why heal lvl10, if my AB @lvl120 sometimes have trouble healing 30k+ hp... i don't wanna try as sura

 

can anyone explain if angelus is usefull or not please? n.n

 

thanks for the abvice anyway :P

 

Edit: i got it, and what about signum crusis for mvp'ing demons/undead with a ranger patner? (yeah, i have one /heh)


Edited by jochy, 29 August 2015 - 04:26 PM.

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#4 ka10

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:25 PM

the standard build has heal 10; you can choose to just have lvl 3 and max dec-agi since you should be using potions in WoE/PvP (i dont even have heal hotkeyed, though i'd still use it to remove kaite)


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#5 ka10

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:27 PM

afaik angelus gives soft-DEF, which subtracts damage directly (unlike hard-DEF which is relative), so not really great

signum crusis is long forgotten as players would just compensate damage via gears/consumables


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#6 jochy

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:31 PM

oh i see, thanks for advices plus i can't imagine how fast can be pvp post renewal as before lol (my builds always have enought aspd to get rid some sort of delay, this can work with snap.. like 182~186?)


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#7 ka10

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:34 PM

yes around 185 ASPD is good; the reason players dont bother with RPS is that a lot of shuras would just snap in and TC/GoH for a quick kill;

vs another shura, RPS is nonsense as they should be constantly on the move (snap) and not sit around like a duck;

if you hotkey lvl 1-4 GoH, pneuma (and lightning walk) should not be a problem (its also faster cast and less delay, so you can chain GoHs in quick succession even w/out strings)


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#8 jochy

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 04:40 PM

oh nice lol

 

i just checked the basic sura build lol (something like TC/GoH/RD/CC/Windmill/AsimilatePower at max lvl)


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