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#26 DeadIntern

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 01:34 AM

Maybe wearing an orlean's gown or geffen magic robe will be better?
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 01:50 AM

It's not a bad shout, I suppose it depends on who I'm going up against in TI this week. My wind and water armors aren't in orleans, so for this weeks low TI I would either need to buy an orleans or go phen.

 

What I was thinking is that having a phen amp wouldn't be a waste, as I gather that's generally how rangers roll too?


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 02:10 AM

say you are level 150 and have 100 dex and 100 agi. so your SR dmg per hit is (100 dex+100 agi)% * 150/100 = 300%.
in second condition, it takes 300% dmg per hit but using the attack power of +200 dex.
in 3rd condition, the dmg formula buffed up becomes (300 dex + 100 agi)% * 150/100 = 600% and it is further buffed by +200 dex extra attack power making it really powerful.

I paid a bit more attention and what happened was the following:

Normal cast of Severe Rainstorm: 7~8k per hit
Hawkeye proc in the middle: damage is increased to 14k per hit
While previous Hawkeye was still active, cast another SR: Stil 14k per hit
Hawkeye proc during this second buffed SR: 22k per hit

So, it indeed stacks the buff 2 times


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 05:32 AM

if you take time to autoattack a monster until hawkeye appears, then u do SR, it will do 22k dmg.
it is not being double buffed.
i cast SR, in the middle of SR, hawkeye activated, goes from 9k to 14k. then SR is over but the hawkeye still there, then you cast another SR while thee hawkeye from previous SR is still there, the dmg will become 22k. it is not doubled, it is the same hawkeye used in two different condition.
if u still confused, try on eggs, do it over and over until you get the grasp of the concept of SR and hawkeye.

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 05:38 AM

I tried, if HE proc with autoattack before casting SR its still 14k. Only turns to 22k when it procs again on this already buffed SR
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 05:57 AM

weird, since it doesnt work that way.
btw, i forgot, there is 4th condition. it happens when you have HE on, then u cast SR and then the HE goes off while SR still running. the dmg will be (still taking account of my example previously) 600% atk but without +200 dex power.
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 08:39 AM

Could I get some feedback on where to look at improving this for "solo-ability"? 

 

This is what I've created so far. I have a +7 Kingbird Elven Bow to go on when I turn 100, then at 130 I'll probably switch to a +7 Kingbird  Bow of Storm. Using converters where appropriate.

 

Depending on the element, I can also use an Orleans with a regular sound amp. I just had a 10 minute run in low TI, 150 fwings saw me use 75 ranked condensed whites and bag a whopping 14% base exp. I assume with more practice I can improve those numbers further.

 

I'd like to shoot for a +9 DR FAW with EA which I can use on several chars, but that's a little while off .

 

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 08:50 AM

You can use raydric or menblatt for faw too.

Your priority should be getting dex boots and 120 base dex; instant cast will lead to you getting hurt a lot less, and faster dps.
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 09:03 AM

If you still have a free reset from mesmerist i'd use it. 120 dex increase eficiency of this build way too much. Just pumping dex from now, you will only achieve 120 at lvl 119 D:
I'd lower the str to 1, vit a bit, and int to no more than 30 for now(in fact my 136 wanderer still has 30 int, and doesnt suffer much)


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 09:14 AM

Thank you both! Replies below:

 

You can use raydric or menblatt for faw too.

Your priority should be getting dex boots and 120 base dex; instant cast will lead to you getting hurt a lot less, and faster dps.

 

Well I plan to have Menblatt and Devilling for my gene so it fits in perfectly here, but I need a refine event before I dare take my wings up to +9 for that final enchant (and I'm short on another DR Card).

 

Similarly I already have BP and RM dex boots from my Gene. Neither enchant is ideal for a performer I know, but I figure it'll negate the SP drain of HE and still grant me the instant cast until I can allocate the money for HE ones.. Are you suggesting pump dex now to 120, or reduce other stats at my current state to achieve it now/ a few levels?

 

If you still have a free reset from mesmerist i'd use it. 120 dex increase eficiency of this build way too much. Just pumping dex from now, you will only achieve 120 at lvl 119 D:
I'd lower the str to 1, vit a bit, and int to no more than 30 for now(in fact my 136 wanderer still has 30 int, and doesnt suffer much)

 

I do have that option yeah, although at 99 I can't really hit it just yet. Do you think my gear is sufficient to survive with 30 INT and ~20 vit? 

 

I've put this in the calculator:

 

Str: 1

Agi: 50

Vit: 28

Int: 30

Dex: 120

Luk: 1

 

I could do that by level 104, then focus on AGI for a bit perhaps?


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 09:29 AM

"The best defense is a good offense". I would get the 120 dex first, then moderate agi. After that, some vit and int.
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Posted 17 September 2015 - 04:58 AM

Would you please make a guide for low budget players? Thank you very much in advance!


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Posted 17 September 2015 - 06:04 AM

Would you please make a guide for low budget players? Thank you very much in advance!

 

let Jaye and Fuyukikun do it. ><" btw you don't need to have op gears like me. Fuyukikun's gear is good enough too.


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Posted 17 September 2015 - 06:46 AM

Low budget is eden gear and +5 elven bow with variant boots and nimble silversmith bracelets

Priority would be to get some +4 temporal dex boots even without enchant or card just for fast cast sr.

Sound amps when you can afford them

Then faw

Edited by Jaye, 17 September 2015 - 06:57 AM.

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 07:03 AM

Thank you very much! Would HBP be a generic replacement for FAW?


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Posted 17 September 2015 - 07:05 AM

I guess but isn't that a waste of money?
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Posted 17 September 2015 - 07:11 AM

But HBP is cheaper, right? Do you mean in the long run?


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Posted 17 September 2015 - 07:18 AM

Buying a 75m item today delays when you can afford a 150m later right?

Buying things and then hawking them to afford other things is a rabbit hole you should never get into unless you like staying poor. Buy things for keeps. Only sell them if you have no plans to ever use then again. In other words, don't buy hbp until you can afford to have both faw and hbp, and you have a chara hbp is more ideal for (maybe gx).

Becoming stacked with gears like the op is all about incrementally accrued stuff.

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 07:49 AM

I see. Thank you very much once more!


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Posted 17 September 2015 - 11:40 AM

HBP just if you are looking for more neutral reductions than FAW, otherwise FAW all the way


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Posted 17 September 2015 - 12:09 PM

Hbp can be good if you need like 3 of the bonuses at once, like 30 atk, 16%+ aspsd, and 10% crit damage at once for a crit gx.
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Posted 17 September 2015 - 01:17 PM

So I was really excited to try my new gear out in Mid Ti:

 

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But errr:
 

 

Ohh okay so noob alert, I forgot that skill reset also resets the skill on the hotbar. Still a bit disappointed to be honest?

 

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 02:35 PM

Thats not too bad. 3500 *12 = 42,000 damage.

More agi/dex will help your damage. Like you have +28 dex while I routinely run around with +70 or more.

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 02:43 PM

I think it could be technique as much as anything, as I just got flattened within seconds.

+70 Dex is impressive!
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Posted 17 September 2015 - 04:15 PM

Try using fire mild wind if you have access, im farming mid TI with my wanderer(since Naga atk range is troublesome to solo on gx), doing average 7k per hit, using a more tanky setup, hbp[dr], unfrozen saphien, leaf cat mid headgear, coldproof, +9rwh, +5 malicious elven, +9 superior temp dex
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