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#1 Arjay

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 02:56 AM

With +9 CoD, 4/4 spell weapon, 4 spell Temp boots, Spell FAW and 2 sprint rings you can have 100% cast reduction making CC insta cast. What I'm not sure about is will the CC damage using the above items suck?

 

Currently im using WPH combo, Orleans gown of wild cat, +9 double kingbird erde 4/5 spell, +9FAW EA10 [RAY], Temp int boots Hawkeye spell4 (got it really cheap. just want to have that spell4) and 2 sprint rings.

 

Im level 100 with level 3 Cart remodel and 5 CC. Stats wise around 80ish str 80ish int 60ish vit and 40ish dex thats without buffs and bonus.

 

Just need suggestion with gears and stats. I checked the guide already its for end game items already and max level stats. like sure its okay to not have any cast reduction if you have 120int 100 dex. with the right buffs and foods you can have insta cast. but thats level at 175. 


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#2 hellokitty

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:03 PM

i went the other way around:

 

+9 EMH dark pingu

BDM dark pingu

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temp Dex ea4/LD -  i was about to use Hawkeye but it was suggested that LD is much better. since you have 100% cast reduc i think you wont need the                                       200 dex why not use bearpower?

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FAW 19SP 30% cast reduc - will change to EA10 once i got 100 dex and 100 int

 

currently level 100 and my CC is around 14k w/ no foods 80 dex and 80 int

 

 

well yeah i have no cast time reduc but i dnt mind.i can 1 shot things anyway and my Sera is tanking things anyway


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 01:56 PM

if you go with spell build, your damage will be so poor. Just maximize the number of ea equipments and get instant cast via status food (20 int and 20 dex)


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 02:17 PM

my gene is 126 now, i use instacast setup from level 99
+9 COD with tower keeper
double kingbird erde spell4/4
faw spell 18
temp str with spell
double sprint rings
total 105% cast reduction
my dmg is constantly in 9-11k using 100 str and 100 int. the dmg is smaller, but the DPS is greater.
later levels i plan to slowly change my gears to EA type since at higher levels i have more status to spend to invest for dex and int.
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Posted 03 October 2015 - 05:00 AM

dmg > cast time if you can one shot.

cast time > dmg if you can't one shot.


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#6 MisterWrong

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 11:18 PM

my gene is 126 now, i use instacast setup from level 99
+9 COD with tower keeper
double kingbird erde spell4/4
faw spell 18
temp str with spell
double sprint rings
total 105% cast reduction
my dmg is constantly in 9-11k using 100 str and 100 int. the dmg is smaller, but the DPS is greater.
later levels i plan to slowly change my gears to EA type since at higher levels i have more status to spend to invest for dex and int.

 

Man thats a great set up. I like it, honestly I would love to have insta cast after 99. Hiting 120 is easy mode. I couldn't get much out of my set up, since I fail at selling stuff lol.

 

I used RWH, orlean, temp int hawkeye ea 4, triple KB red twin, and 2 sprint ring. With this set up, I get about 11k damage, but can't one shot deleters in magma with 90 int and str. I was missing just a little bit. I had to use 1 ROFL to get it work. Once a while the Hawkeye prods and I am happy to see insta cast. It was sweet man, except if you proc it too often, you lose all your mana. Moral of the story, get insta cast gear at early level, and have enough fund to swap to EA enchants. 

 

From my experience, with -30% cast reduct, I felt no difference. LOL just saying, I tried it out, but then I don't know what to replace my sprint ring. ~_~ Well I guess as soon as I get enough funds, I will get a pair of cast reduct RWCs.. Or what else could it be?

 

How is tower keeper compare to KK? Oh well 5 % extra at a +9 COD. 


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 03:43 AM

KK is too expensive lol. i need to spread my zeny to buy another gears to complete the set. difference of KK vs Tower keeper at +9 is 4%. if i want to put KK, i think i really need to get the +12 CoD one


Edited by fuyukikun, 05 October 2015 - 03:44 AM.

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 03:49 AM

If you want KK get one now that they are like 200~250m :v
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:14 PM

I will have to be a hooker for the rest of my life to actually afford one lmao. But yeah back then kk was like 500m. What happened to GMs banning players that bought duplicated KK card? Do people have to go through GM to ensure that its legit?


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#10 Ashuckel

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:16 PM

Regarding Thor issues, dont ask me :3


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#11 Kadelia

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:31 PM

I usually prefer damage overcast time, but only when the choicesare comparable. Crown of Deceit of Caster versus Evil Marching would not be comparable as thats like 32% cast time vs 5% ranged. On the other hand a spell-enchanted Fallen Angel Wing and an expert archer/menblatt FAW is comparable bonus strength, so I prioritize the ranged boost.
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Posted 05 October 2015 - 04:49 PM

Keep in mind that CoD forces you to give up your mid headgear slot, which is kind of a big deal for endgame.  I don't think it's very useful beyond TI/leveling purposes.  


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Posted 23 October 2015 - 07:02 AM

hopefully no one will mind me bringing this thread back to the top but I'm trying to follow the suggestions here in my head and work out what is the greatest contributor to damage?

 

I've made it to Gene and im now base 99 job 10 (medals from lucky box :x )

 

my stats are:

 

str 60

agi 1

vit 51

int 95

dex 62

luk 1

 

thats base stats without job/equip/food bonuses.

 

The gear im currently wearing right now is:

 

+4 evil wing

evil wing ears

pirate dagger

oreleans gown of wild cat

+4 triple kingbird red twin edge

+4 valk shield from hell

+4 immune nidhoggur's shadow garb

+7 green boots

advanced ring of flame lord

advanced ring of resonance

 

cart cannon is lvl 5, remodelling lvl 3, cart boost lvl 1.

 

my cart cannon damage is -seriously- poor. around about 5.7k to hill winds in low TI right now.I dont one shot anything, anywhere :P

 

I have 19mil zenny on account. I have a +0 HBP in storage and a +0 crown of deceit. I have a +5 double kingbird erde that I was using until today to mvp as a biochem - I bought the RTE today based off wiki guide along with orleans gown which together took over half my zenny.

 

Recommendations on what gear to go for (that wont take a year to save up for), which stats to raise etc for fastest leveling? Goal is lvl 120 so i can do ghost palace along side by Ranger (he's 123) so i can get double the shards and hopefully start fixing my zenny problems -_-


Edited by Sephnroth, 23 October 2015 - 07:02 AM.

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 07:05 AM

Cart remodeling increase CC damage far more than the actual CC. Get that to 5 ASAP


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Posted 23 October 2015 - 07:18 AM

For lowbies, I'd rather use Spell enchants for a better cast. Then once you have decent Dex and Int, pop some foods and have cast reduction by stats and use damage gears. :D


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Posted 23 October 2015 - 08:44 PM

Once i use cast reduce gear now i more like using damage gear
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Posted 22 November 2015 - 03:14 AM

IMO Cast reduction gear is better until you reach higher levels, when you have more stat points to play with.  At 175 it is best to go with dmg gear and leave cast reduction to stats and bonus foods/scrolls etc.  Besides, in the endgame MVP etc you'll be using Acid bomb much more frequently, so you'll need the temp dex boots and 120 dex to cut its cast time in half.


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