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#1 saruman2

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 01:45 PM

I was wondering what is the best weapon for crushing strike in pvp/woe.

Considering both +11(this make the +% demi-human damage bonus equal)

Claymore was supposed to do more damage cause it has more atk, but the spear has a bonus and ignore size modifiers if u are on the dragon.

 

Calculating the size modifier:

100%/75% = 133,33% more damage to the spear

But the spear has 90 less weapon atk

 

 

Does someone know if this makes the spear better?


Edited by saruman2, 23 September 2015 - 01:48 PM.

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#2 Ashuckel

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 06:30 PM

Claymore is stronger, it has Slaughter lv2 effect, different from spear's Slaughter lv1. To put it simple, is like if the bonus for refinement when they are at same upgd, the claymore is like 1 upgrade further.
Its like:

+9 g. claymore = +10 g. spear
+10 g. claymore = +11 g. spear

and so on, at +14, glorious claymore has a +121% bonus from slaughter, while +14 spear has +100%


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#3 saruman2

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 04:23 AM

Yes, i know that, with a highest upgrade the claymore would be better but i made a comparison using the combat simulator from iW stat simulator
 considering they are both +11
Claymore: 220 atk
Increases physical damage against [Demi-Human] race targets by 75%. + (Upgrade - 3) ^ 2 = 75%+64¨= 139%
Spear: : 130 atk
Increases physical damage against [Demi-Human] race targets by 95%. + (Upgrade - 4) ^ 2 = 144%  
It's almost the same bonus
 
According to the iRO calculator, even with the dragon(that ignores the medium size weapon modifier using spear) the crushing strike damage would be like 2k superior with self buffs and bless with the claymore.
 
Considering both +14:

Claymore: 220atk and 121+75% = 196%

Spear: 130 atk and 100+95% = 195%

It's almost the same bonus too.

 

Here spear did like 500 more damage.

 

If this calculator is correct, the claymore is better until the really high upgrades, then the size modifier penaty of the sword will make the spear a little bit better.


Edited by saruman2, 24 September 2015 - 04:24 AM.

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#4 Ashuckel

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 07:38 AM

The calculator is noth accurate in damage calculations, sadly
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Posted 27 September 2015 - 05:43 PM

just get BOTH of it and TRY.

 

I have both of it and have same result.


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