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[GodYato]

Greetings,

 

I would like to suggest new BSQ system (if it possible) into these following :

1. No more time accumulating points, mean when you are holding flags you will no longer gain point within certain time and change into you need kill when you have flag in order to gain point, point accumulation (1 flag = 50 point) mean when you have 10 flag, you will got 500 points each kill, of course you must deal the finishing blow

 

2. Of course there are dying points too! when you died and dropping a flags you got (1*100 points per flag)

3. You will receive 2 point each when u land a hit on flag holder, as for the flag holder themselves will minus 2 point per tanking blow/hit

 

4. Lastly the BSQ quest system will stay as is it but increasing more point reward on each quest

 

5. So far only this

 

Reason ::
1. To prevent WM/Priest from ruling the BSQ but still can have advantage due to dying and hitting points (why wm? no need explanation)
 

2. To help those class who is hard at killing at the same time also hard at surviving easier gain point (linked to suggestion 1)

 

3. Probably more teamwork while focus targeting the flag user instead of getting played by the non flag user at least through hitting point

 

4. I always see some low level BSQ (80+ is an exception) owned player on player very easily, in few hit, in 1 combo due to overpower elements being having no resistance.

 

5. So far only this

So I come to conclusion of :
-WM is good at surviving, hard at killing, good at hitting (you might need a thick jacket!)
-Priest is good at surviving, good at killing, also good at hitting (wide heal and magnet rock you)

-Pally is hard at surviving, hard at killing, fair at hitting (if only TR/barricade is not restricted.....)

-Overlord is HARD at surviving, HARD at killing, good at hitting (I wan bruce lee!!)

-Sentinel is fair at surviving, fair at killing, good at hitting (testrap!)
-Destroyer is fair at surviving, good at killing, good at hitting (1 arrow... 2 arrow... snipe!)

-Savage is hard at surviving, hard at killing, fair at hitting (I only come to dance!)
-Ninja is fair at surviving, hard at killing, good at hitting (kage bunshin no jutsu!)

-Summoner is fair at surviving, OP at killing, decent at hitting (you bubble or I bubble you)

-Twin is good at surviving, good at killing, kungfu master (without a doubt magsteslaphobia)

 

I am nobody! I am just sharing my opinion through some BattleSquare I have attend
PS : Oh yea! I know this might wont be possible

[SoulSight]

Hi nobody, I know imbalance is still an issue of this game. However, recently the team and we have decided to nerf already and we're waiting for the result of change. Hopefully you understand this and also this is a complicated case. It cannot be solved in a tic tac.

[flubsy]

I think people already requested having a bsq with no flags as when it first happened as a glitch, it turned out very popular, but the team changed it back to flags as it was not intended.

 

Also many skills were "banned" in pvp during a recent patch so...  take it as you will.

[Coolsam]

Just remove flags and buff missions. Even your proposed changes has loopholes or don't take into account the obvious gear differences of lower level Battlesquares.

[Apocryphos]

if our dev team could remove the flags monsters for 1 week. to see how bsq went that'd be nice.

pro's
no flag hoarding.

con's
larger wealth gap for overgeared vs undergeared

Edited by Apocryphos, 27 September 2015 - 08:04 PM.

[SoulSight]

To flubsy : It was popular because (I think) there was no 8x battlesquare.

[Coolsam]

To flubsy : It was popular because (I think) there was no 8x battlesquare.

 

No it was popular because it took kills/active fighting to win. Not 20 minutes of running or healing while your team holds em off.

 

Would you prefer;

A.) Your primary target is the 8XX+ HLT Invoker with good %Max Hp bonuses, +20/Barney PoS and good 4-element resist. He's got the flag's majority and he's running and healing and you have to evade his entire team while focusing him.

 

or

 

B.) Everyone's your target. You can avoid this unkillable guy and go for an easier target if you want. Oh here's some missions for bonus points to mix it up.

 

Assuming both teams are equal in number of stacked players.

Here's how Scenario A ends: That one guy has 75-95% of the teams overall score. Everyone who broke their neck protecting him combined don't even hold up. He probably just ran over the flags as soon as someone else killed.

Here's how option B ends:  Active participants with a relatively balanced score. Games are usually more close.

[SoulSight]

No it was popular because it took kills/active fighting to win. Not 20 minutes of running or healing while your team holds em off.

 

Would you prefer;

A.) Your primary target is the 8XX+ HLT Invoker with good %Max Hp bonuses, +20/Barney PoS and good 4-element resist. He's got the flag's majority and he's running and healing and you have to evade his entire team while focusing him.

 

or

 

B.) Everyone's your target. You can avoid this unkillable guy and go for an easier target if you want. Oh here's some missions for bonus points to mix it up.

 

Assuming both teams are equal in number of stacked players.

Here's how Scenario A ends: That one guy has 75-95% of the teams overall score. Everyone who broke their neck protecting him combined don't even hold up. He probably just ran over the flags as soon as someone else killed.

Here's how option B ends:  Active participants with a relatively balanced score. Games are usually more close.

 

I'm not sure the reason it was popular :-ss what i saw, the very first battlesquare after maintenance, were a lot of players joining 6x battlesquare (I was there and i saw you).

 

The running flag holder is a popular case in battlesquare, they are not supposed to die. But if we removed flag, it would be difficult to gain the point due to random mission. Not every surprising mission can be done. And it's random, it depends on luck to finish it easily.

[5143121023173906760]

But if we removed flag, it would be difficult to gain the point due to random mission. Not every surprising mission can be done. And it's random, it depends on luck to finish it easily.

Reminds me of EW Tournament.

[SoulSight]

As long as my opinion is still related, I want to say that we should restrict players from participating battlesquare or changing team in very last moment to gain the reward by setting limited time. I suggest it 10 minutes, it's a half of battlesquare time and there will be no excuse for that. 

[Zackx23]

As long as my opinion is still related, I want to say that we should restrict players from participating battlesquare or changing team in very last moment to gain the reward by setting limited time. I suggest it 10 minutes, it's a half of battlesquare time and there will be no excuse for that. 

 

won't work because what if someone started in the winning team and gets a DC in the last, let's say, 5 minutes so he won't be able to come back to his team he fought with IF there is the possibility and the teams aren't out of balance (13:4 or something)

[SoulSight]

won't work because what if someone started in the winning team and gets a DC in the last, let's say, 5 minutes so he won't be able to come back to his team he fought with IF there is the possibility and the teams aren't out of balance (13:4 or something)

Disconnection is unavoidable. If you mean crash, i will say Large Address Aware. If you mean RAM less than 2GB, i will say relog.

What do you think if someone kept changing team to get reward? Or even waiting for the last moment and join the battlesquare? By a click, that player receives a sign of hero and sell it for money...do they deserve it?

[flubsy]

eh... I tend to join battle square about 10-15 minutes late, or else it becomes too one sided. So having that time restriction really hurts my attempt at evening out teams.

 

Also having it being a PK point system with no flags somewhat forces players to kill instead of afking on the winning team, there's no guarantee of a win without players killing and completing missions.  And if it's 1v5 (I've seen it so many times)  it's not super imbalanced to the team of 5.  When someone decides to join the team of 1 it's possible to make a comeback.

[SoulSight]

Being too one sided is unavoidable. Weak players tend to leave easily, strong players stay.

 

Also having it being a PK point system with no flags somewhat forces players to kill instead of afking on the winning team, there's no guarantee of a win without players killing and completing missions.  And if it's 1v5 (I've seen it so many times)  it's not super imbalanced to the team of 5.  When someone decides to join the team of 1 it's possible to make a comeback.

 

The flag holders won't probably be afk. Also we can report afk players due to being against the rule, the rule is still pinned there, battlesquare is never meant to be afk inside to get reward.

Oh wait, how about we just ask GM to watch? We have GM watching us all of time to prevent third party tool abuse (they really have free time) so why not invite GM to spectate whoever being afk in battlesquare?

[Homurasan]

(they really have free time)

 

It's part of their job as far as I know.

[SoulSight]

I suggest a team to watch ._.

[5143121023173906760]

I suggest a team to watch ._.

Yeah, and I suggest someone to watch our inventory, pms, friend list and guild members, and also EW and each run of every map for being sure the game is played on his right way.

[SoulSight]

Duh... I'm ok with that, you can have it.

[5143121023173906760]

I don't think watching BSQs is actually a good hobby, neither of what I mentioned also.

[SoulSight]

And I don't think afk players deserve the reward.

[5143121023173906760]

Then just report them.
Do you actually need someone to overwatch you ?
There's no point on bringing a GM for BSQ unless no one cares about the rule, but don't think they're your dog, or your buttler, because they're not. They don't have the whole day to spend on DS and I bet they do have a second job to work on.

Also, this topic is revamp the BSQ system, stop being focused only on your ideas, because you're the only who always say "I don't wanna be off-topic blablabla..." (even if that's not the case.)

May I ask you to just focus a little bit and use your brain before posting something from now on ?

[5143121023173906760]

Then just report them.
Do you actually need someone to overwatch you ?
There's no point on bringing a GM for BSQ unless no one cares about the rule, and players that afk in BSQ is a minority.
And please, don't think GMs are your dog, or your buttler, because they're not. They don't have the whole day to spend on DS and I bet they do have a second job to work on.

Also, this topic is revamp the BSQ system, stop being focused only on your ideas, because you're the only who always say "I don't wanna be off-topic blablabla..." (even if that's not the case.)

May I ask you to just focus a little bit and use your brain before posting something from now on ?

[Coolsam]

Then just report them.
Do you actually need someone to overwatch you ?
There's no point on bringing a GM for BSQ unless no one cares about the rule, and players that afk in BSQ is a minority.

 

I'd take this advice;

 

GM's will generally tell you; "If you need assistance, write us a ticket." It's very easy to acquire screenshot evidence of afk'ers as they're obviously afk. They'll investigate the issue and take appropriate action.

 

This may have happened before some new players in these forums joined but; The GM's do pay attention to BSQ misconduct. These rules of afk'ing, frequent team-swapping, buff abusing, alt-logging to stack teams, etc. They are actually enforced. But begging a GM in-game won't do much compared to acquiring evidence and submitting it through the ticket system.

[SoulSight]

I'd take this advice;

GM's will generally tell you; "If you need assistance, write us a ticket." It's very easy to acquire screenshot evidence of afk'ers as they're obviously afk. They'll investigate the issue and take appropriate action.

This may have happened before some new players in these forums joined but; The GM's do pay attention to BSQ misconduct. These rules of afk'ing, frequent team-swapping, buff abusing, alt-logging to stack teams, etc. They are actually enforced. But begging a GM in-game won't do much compared to acquiring evidence and submitting it through the ticket system.

I never thought I had enough evidence. So... oh well fine.