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#1 stormchell

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 01:58 PM

Hey guys! recently made a Gene and have some questions to ask!

 

- If I am to solo ET in the future, how do I deal with the MVPs that have neutral resist (no AB)? Do I just CC them to death? And how does one change the element of CC?
- I had an Erde [2] and decided to go to Malangdo to try my luck enchanting it. I've gotten EA4 x 2 after a number of attempts. Is this good enough for now? I'm not exactly a rich player and can't afford something like EA5 HF... furthermore, to + how many I should upgrade the erde? (I know +12 is probably the answer, but is +9 good enough for now?)

- Following on the above points... is it wise to put double AK, or is double AS a better all round choice?
- I have a alice valk shield from forever ago, and it's useful for MVPing. Any suggestions on shields for everyday use?

- Any suggestions on body armor and accesory for MVPing?

 

Thank you for your time! I would love to eventually be able to do ET runs properly.


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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:19 PM

1. cannot change element of CCs i.e. enchant fire, but you can use cannon balls that are elemental e.g. holy cannonballs.

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Cart_Cannon

2. good enough for now

3. all around is 2x AS, when you richer get 2x AK

4. depends on what monster you wanna kill to level up. I wouldnt recommend hodremlin myself

5. if you got full chemical protection you wont need valk armor. if you mvping bayani armor is good but need high upgrades. just use orleans gown since its not interuptable for your cart cannon and you wont need phen, saves a slot for accessory. accessory = pendant of chaos = cheap. unless you got money for RWC rings with full enchants and gold scaraba cards


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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:43 PM

1. cannot change element of CCs i.e. enchant fire, but you can use cannon balls that are elemental e.g. holy cannonballs.

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Cart_Cannon

2. good enough for now

3. all around is 2x AS, when you richer get 2x AK

4. depends on what monster you wanna kill to level up. I wouldnt recommend hodremlin myself

5. if you got full chemical protection you wont need valk armor. if you mvping bayani armor is good but need high upgrades. just use orleans gown since its not interuptable for your cart cannon and you wont need phen, saves a slot for accessory. accessory = pendant of chaos = cheap. unless you got money for RWC rings with full enchants and gold scaraba cards

 

Thanks for your reply! quick question...

 

1. How do I get elemental cannon balls? is it sold somewhere, or do I just use converters?

2. Currently using a +9 clean FAW but with EA 4/3/3. I know it's not godly, but would it still dish out okay damage for acid bomb? or would you recommend HBP?


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Posted 11 October 2015 - 02:58 PM

I'm kinda new to gene too. But I guess I can help you with your questions.

 

1) MVP's with neutral resistance you mean ghosts. You can't him them with Acid Bomb so yea you need to CC them with Soul Cannons. i.g: Belzebub, Evil Snake Lord, Gloom, etc. To change your CC element, just use converters + iron cannons (+ ATK)? Not sure about this. Unless you want ghost/shadow/holy property then you can just switch your cannons.

 

2) If you lack funds, then Erde EA 8 is fine. Personally, I don't like HF since I'm most of the time soloing on my genetic and I need to wear a shield to tank better. If you are gonna mvping with friends / guild, probably you won't need to tank anything and be able to focus more on your dps. In this case you should invest in a HF. About the refinement, It Is obvious that we all want a +12~15 weapon. +9 works fine too.

 

3) AK for MVP's, otherwise AS.

 

4) Alice Shield is a must have if you MVP. But there are some cases where the mobs hit harder than the MVP itself. So I'd recommend having extra shields with racial reduction.

 

5) Finally, elemental reduction cards for armor (Orleans and Geffen Robe are the only I can think of )if you can't afford MVP cards and Gods. KBC / Phen / Gold Scaraba for accessories.

 

Finally, I was able to solo ET up to floor 95. From my experience, I must tell you one thing. Soloing ET costs lot of money and time. Just a short reminder to someone who are not exactly rich. But if you like challenge, give it a try. Hope the best ! 


Edited by Richkr, 11 October 2015 - 03:00 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 03:04 PM

Thanks for your reply! quick question...

 

1. How do I get elemental cannon balls? is it sold somewhere, or do I just use converters?

2. Currently using a +9 clean FAW but with EA 4/3/3. I know it's not godly, but would it still dish out okay damage for acid bomb? or would you recommend HBP?

 

1) http://db.irowiki.or...-info/prt_mech/

 

You can buy them at Lighthalzen too. About the converters, I'm not so sure. You can always test c:

 

2) +9 FAW EA10 is the best for ranged atk like acid bomb. HBP is overall good but never the best at anything. 


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Posted 17 October 2015 - 03:10 PM

1.

here is how convert or endow works on CC:

Elemental cannon ball (holy/dark/soul) override whatever convert or endow.

Which means if you are equip with the elemental cannon ball, your CC is gonna be that element.

However, convert or endow kicks in if you are equip with iron or normal cannon ball (the cheap neutral one), 

Which means if you are equip with iron cannon ball and got fire endow or use fire convert, your dmg vs earth element monster will goes up, but the dmg increase won't come close to those element cannon ball vs the right monster.

let's say you do 50k CC on a shadow monster using iron cannon, you do 100k with holy ball equiped. But you only do 70k with iron cannon ball + asp. (just an example, numbers are made up, but you can get the idea how the convert/endow works)

 

2+3.

+9 ea 4/4 seems good, AK is for mvp only, unless you have another weapon for daily use. put 2 AS inside.

 

4.

just get a immue shield of resistant then you are good to go for daily lvling. but do get some racial reduction shield like human/insect/formless. I don't know what your homu S are, but sera's PK reduce your lvling spent by A LOT. (never have to pot with a vana hat/rideword hat)

 

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Body armor: as usual elemental armor, some are needed some are not. 

Unfrozen water/fire/wind

Shadow 

those are commonly needed.

 

Try to get a perfect EA FAW for dmg, or 30% reduction spell FAW for fast cast. 


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#7 stormchell

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:42 PM

Thank you very much guys for the response!

I've accidentally put 110 STR instead of INT for acid bomb... is this still ok? ;o I believe AB is calculated using both ATK and MATK. According to Dr Azzys thread above, 110 STR seems to be OK if I use FAW.


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#8 tshin23

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:53 PM

In ET, you pretty much bomb every MVP. Few exceptions, which you would kill with Cart Cannon using either Holy Balls or Soul Balls (Ghost).

 

For your weapon, Erde is pretty sweet since it allows you to use a shield to tank. +9 is decent enough. If you have someone else to tank, Hurricane Fury would be a better option for it's damage.

 

I'd card Abysmal Knight Cards in it for sure. OuO There will come a point where AS x AK won't be so much of a difference in my opinion, so AK it is. :3

 

Alice for bosses, and maybe racial resist cards? Or Hodremlin or Platinum Shield do just as fine for everyday use. :D

 

Body armor is pretty much elemental resistance choices. Will depend on the monster you are facing. And about accessories, will depend on how much you can invest in gears. RWC Rings with ATK 6% or FS 6 is good, if you are not wearing an Orleans's Gown or Geffen Magic Robe (or even Spell Flow Shadow Gear set), Phen Card is a must. Or you can choose other accessories such as Pendant of Maelstorm, Bakonawa Agimatt Tattoo, Medal of Honor (Merchant)... There are plenty of options out there. ^^


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:55 PM

Thank you very much guys for the response!

I've accidentally put 110 STR instead of INT for acid bomb... is this still ok? ;o I believe AB is calculated using both ATK and MATK. According to Dr Azzys thread above, 110 STR seems to be OK if I use FAW.

 

That's fine. Acid Bomb damage would be increased more by adding more STR than INT. Even though ATK x MATK goes the same proportion in the formula, STR adds a little extra attack depending on your weapon attack.

Int would be good for cast reduction and Cart Cannon damage (which is affected by attack too).

So, no worries. ~


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