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#26 KirinKishi808

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 09:42 PM

it would be cool if you can feed the dragon with Elemental Stone and change their breath based on what stone you gave him/her/it. Make them drink holy water/cursed water for holy/shadow element :P

 

Just like  Sorcerer's Psychic Wave works like, but no ghost element though.


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Posted 16 November 2015 - 10:00 PM

That would be broken


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 09:54 AM

make the dragon able to do auto dragon breath just like auto warg strike of Ranger.

I would like to use it for my agi RK. It will be good for additional AoE damage and dps.

 

And we could bring up to two or three monsters at a time. One for auto dragon breath, others will do similar like auto warg strike ( need to add new skill eg monster strike). However, they dont have to be leveled up like Gen's homunculus, but more like a warg.

Maybe we can change the monster/mount/companion sprite at will. For example horse, snake, gryphon, dragon or sheep.

All of them can be place in the special gear like in the Pokemon story. Only one can be released in the city at one time. While all can be released during fighting against monster, so the monsters cannot bully us easily.

Then, make it available to be used by all 3rd class job to be fair. Btw, is it still Ragnarok? :p_laugh:


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 10:15 AM

i want to ride a dragon. Not a freakin' gecko.


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Posted 20 November 2015 - 06:10 AM

make the dragon able to do auto dragon breath just like auto warg strike of Ranger.

I would like to use it for my agi RK. It will be good for additional AoE damage and dps.

Even if they implement this, your DB damage will sucks anyway since the damage depends on HP/SP and ranged%. Why dont you just use Ignition Break?

 

And we could bring up to two or three monsters at a time. One for auto dragon breath, others will do similar like auto warg strike ( need to add new skill eg monster strike). However, they dont have to be leveled up like Gen's homunculus, but more like a warg.

your dragon will eat the other monster. Dragons dont like to share their master's love

 

Maybe we can change the monster/mount/companion sprite at will. For example horse, snake, gryphon, dragon or sheep.

GRF edit can do that for you but at your own risk and effort

 

All of them can be place in the special gear like in the Pokemon story. Only one can be released in the city at one time. While all can be released during fighting against monster, so the monsters cannot bully us easily.

I have a better idea, be a guild master and let them do the fighting for you

Then, make it available to be used by all 3rd class job to be fair. Btw, is it still Ragnarok? :p_laugh:

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:24 AM

here is where I got this from: http://irowiki.org/wiki/Hundred_Spears

 

"Base Damage is increased by the Weight of the current weapon, then it is affected by Base Level."

 

If I am wrong I would take it, but then this has to be changed too. I never found HS to be useful anyway (due to long cool down) Clashing Spiral under gloomy does a lot more damage


Edited by 480131019225050943, 24 November 2015 - 05:24 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:41 AM

+(1,000 − Weap_Weight)%; Limit: 1,000
The formula for how weight affects Hundred Spears is on that page.

As the formula clearly shows, the heavier your weapon the less damage you do.
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Posted 24 November 2015 - 06:06 AM

Does it says it increases the heavier the weapon is? I dont think so.
It just states the base damage is afected by the weapon weight, ans the formula shows it must be a light weapon
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Posted 24 November 2015 - 09:11 AM

this is the only formula on that link that I sent ya: Value: +(ClashingSpiral_Lv × 50)%

 

Here is the full thing that I see: 

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Effect

Perform a flurry of five pierces at a single target. It has a chance of activating Spear Boomerang upon inflicting damage, in which case the target will be pushed 6 cells backwards. Requires the user to wield a Spear class weapon.

Main damage Level Base Damage (ATK) Chance of Autocast Cast Time 1 680% 13% 1.0s 2 760% 16% 0.9s 3 840% 19% 0.8s 4 920% 22% 0.7s 5 1,000% 25% 0.6s 6 1,080% 28% 0.5s 7 1,160% 31% 0.4s 8 1,240% 34% 0.3s 9 1,320% 37% 0.2s 10 1,400% 40% 0.1s

  • Base Damage is increased by the Weight of the current weapon, then it is affected by Base Level.

Bonus damage

Value: +(ClashingSpiral_Lv × 50)%"

 

That formula that you displayed I have no clue where you got it


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 09:20 AM

^ mouse over that "weight". you will see another formula.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 09:23 AM

Ok, i see now. Why the heck does it say increased by? confusing

 

After doing more googling here is what it came down to:

 

Damage = ATK [{(600 + (Skill Level x 80) + (1000 - Weight of the Spear)} x (1 + [(Caster’s Base Level - 100) / 200])] %

 

 

This means I was deceived by that "increased by" so I was wrong on this. 

 

That being said, What about Brocca in this case?


Edited by 480131019225050943, 24 November 2015 - 09:37 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 10:13 AM

Less so deceived, more like misled. The damage is increased by weight, just not in the way you'd expect at first glance.

Edited by hotel, 24 November 2015 - 10:14 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 03:20 PM

Its increased based on the weight of the weapon, the lighter the more powerfull.
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Posted 26 November 2015 - 03:24 AM

 

That being said, What about Brocca in this case?

For killing Bradium Golems and those walking anabolic steroid trees in nydhogg instance.

As I said in an other topic, Brocca is the most overrated Spear for PVM in Renewal. Go with Eden Spear first. If you want to invest in EA enchants, then get a Gungnir > Brocca.


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Posted 02 June 2016 - 09:28 AM

Toinks!


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