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[RioCyrus97]

Hey everyone, i just started this type of class and found out it's really fun. However, I have problem regarding the AOE and damage. As we know Round Trip is super useful AOE for Rebel classbut it need 1 coin each to cast. My problem is that how do I maintain the coin and from this video link, i barely see the rebel cast Rich's Coin except for Platinum Altar      

 

In terms of damage, is it normal i do 25k-27k on shadow element mobs?? I'm using 2x strouf mini gun becuz somebody said racial card give more dmg than the AS card. However i do like 13k-15k on normal mobs... How do i make my damage higher??

 

My stats:

Agi 58

Vit 90

Int 30

Dex 118

 

My Gears:

+9 Vana Helm

Dark Blinder

Well-chewed pencil

Mini gun with racial cards//+10 2x HF mini gun//+9 2x AS mini gun

+9 iFAW max EA

+9 Enchance variant shoes

2x Bako Tattoos

 

Thx for your guide    

[Silvianna]

I dont see where's the problem, rich's coins is insta cast, has no cooldown 

it's not normal 27k on shadow unless you arent using platinum altar ?

however if it's with platinum altar you hit around 30-40k, it's not normal also i think 

because mine not using 2x bako tats, still able to hit 40-50k 

[RioCyrus97]

how did u get 40-50k     ?? yeah, i know rich's coin don't have CD but how do the rebel in the video don't need to recast it after 10x times spamming round trip     ......... i almost die because of the rich's coin ran out    oh b4 that, would u mind sharing ur way of rebel that deal up 40-50k  and how do u do on normal mob (non-shadow/non-undead)

[Silvianna]

mine is :

 

clementia , +20 dex food, Platinum altar on max coins

+9 Rwh

Bdm polution

Well-chewed pencil

+10 2xracials Minigun

+9 Faw EA shooter

2x Rwc dex+atk%

+9 Glittering jacket Dex+3 carded with dame of sentinel ( Dex 5 / vit 90 )

 

[RioCyrus97]

w8, max coin give more dmg on platinum altar     ... how do RWH leeching procs?? i kinda need HP leeching since i already got incu pet to support my sp   no wonder ur dmg is high, that dex increament    

[Silvianna]

i mean max coins first and then platinum altar, because it increases your damage x% per coins, just like heat barrel     
yes Dex it is, for Fire Rain and Round Trip   
 

DEX is influencing Round Trip waaay to much lol, like, everytime i level up, and put 1~2 points into dex, my round trip damage increases by 1k basically

[RioCyrus97]

oh my god      no wonder sometimes i deal 30-33k or 27-29k on the mid TI couples..........        oh yes, which one better, RWC or bako tatts? need explaination please, and do we have slotted tempest yet on iRO??

[Silvianna]

Also use purifying bullet not silver bullet altho both of them're holy and required for platinum, but purifying deals higher than silver,

for heat barrel auto attack it's better to use armor piercing bullet + aspersio for shadow ( any elements you want )

[RioCyrus97]

Also use purifying bullet not silver bullet altho both of them're holy and required for platinum, but purifying deals higher than silver,

for heat barrel auto attack it's better to use armor piercing bullet + aspersio for shadow ( any elements you want )

this....

 

thank you    

 

i never know about this  seems like the elemental bullet kinda forgotten  and yes i'm using the purifying, vampire killer bullet... i'll try to learn check my floating coins and yeah, careful w/ power absorbing sura    

[Ashuckel]

RWC Ring DEX3 ATK3% ATK3% [1] (to be probably carded with g.scaraba) has better damage than Bako, but doesnt gives aspd.

[Darksorrow1234]

urmm where to get purifying bullets? lol

[Ashuckel]

Prontera/Rebel guild vending machines.
The difference in damage is minimal tho

[Darksorrow1234]

ahhh i didnt notice it haha. alright thx

 

[RioCyrus97]

RWC Ring DEX3 ATK3% ATK3% [1] (to be probably carded with g.scaraba) has better damage than Bako, but doesnt gives aspd.

 

Hmm   ....... looks like i have to reset my RWC until those enchant come up.

 

one question, does reseetiing the stat part on RWC will reset the whole enchant???

[RioCyrus97]

one more thing, between racial and property card, which one better or is it the same??       AFAIK, AS card only good for general    

[ZeAlpaca]

I'd found that using property card's better than racial. For example, on scaraba, I'd do more dmg using kahox2 minigun (Earth Property dmg+) than using caramelx2 minigun(Insect race dmg+). But might need more testing on other races/properties too.

[Silvianna]

AS is good only if you cant afford multiple weapon =D , like BxB prefer using AS as general usage , but for Rebel ( thanks vend machine ! )  since it's cheap, you can create multiple version of +9-10 racial Miniguns =D

 

i could be wrong but depends on weapon atk

Race > Size > Element > AS

 

Sometimes element deals lower than size or even higher, not sure why, 

Edited by Silvianna, 11 December 2015 - 02:31 AM.

[RioCyrus97]

oh i see, but i'm thinking the elemental does not effect by the level unless i'm endowed and yeah it kinda have some penalties (maybe not)........ i think i will go with properties card i think cuz it can deal dmg to all mobs regardless its racial     

Edited by RioCyrus97, 10 December 2015 - 09:04 PM.

[Silvianna]

Or using Size, scarabas in the hall is medium i think, most of monsters are also medium ?

[Ashuckel]

In most of general cases, AS is better than racial cards. Simply because it will increase your final damage. So, if you do 20k, with 1xAS you will do 22k. 

Racial/Elemental/Size cards will affect on you weapon attack. So if your weapon has 200 atk, having 1x Racial card will make the damage calculation be like if it had 240 atk.

 

The results can vary, when the weapon atk and/or equip atk is very high, generaly racial/element/size cards are better. When these aren't that much high, AS cards is better.

 

Well all of the Rebel weapons have a fkn high atk so....

[Silvianna]

In most of general cases, AS is better than racial cards. Simply because it will increase your final damage. So, if you do 20k, with 1xAS you will do 22k. 

Racial/Elemental/Size cards will affect on you weapon attack. So if your weapon has 200 atk, having 1x Racial card will make the damage calculation be like if it had 240 atk.

 

The results can vary, when the weapon atk and/or equip atk is very high, generaly racial/element/size cards are better. When these aren't that much high, AS cards is better.

 

Well all of the Rebel weapons have a fkn high atk so....

 

hmm that's why racial works better on me, thanks for explaining senpai   

[RioCyrus97]

           

[Silvianna]

So, for slug shot, which one is better ? AS or Racial , since its default damage is already high 

[Ashuckel]

It follows the same thinking.
Its not that "default" is high. Apparently the skill formula takes in account the ammo weight. That just means that your skill % its higher, the atk calculation is still the same. AS would be better if the ammo weight part was something like Bonus damage, but it is not(try slug shot with peace breaker and death fire, the difference is atrocious)