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[Xellie]

So, there's a mob on Classic which has different stats to how it was on almost every pre-renewal server (including official) and I feel like this is a change that should be reverted.

 

Mob ID : 1288

 

Official (vanilla) stats :

 

HP    68430    
ATK    60~71    
DEF    40 + 80~95    
Race    Angel
MDEF    50 + 90    
Element    Holy1
Perfect Hit    127    
Size    Small

 

iRO Classic stats:

 

HP    150000
ATK    60~71    
DEF    40 + 35
Race    Angel
MDEF    50 + 67
Element    Holy1
Perfect Hit    127    
Size    Small

 

Now, obviously, custom changes are pretty terrible, so I am proposing that the mob with the ID of 1288 has its HP reverted to official values and its defense increased. Battles taking longer are detrimental to the game.

 

thank you for your attention. Have a good christmas.

[Undying]

Switch it to act like Renewal, but with 150,000 hp

[Xellie]

I can find out where you live. One meg is enough bitcoin br0

 

p.s: this is why you're the derp one

Edited by Xellie, 24 December 2015 - 05:22 PM.

[ShinRyoma]

Reverting changes already made and that we are used to might not be that good, it even applies to those 50%redux. But if changing stupid emperium to a 70k ice pickable target means leaving the damn Cards and/or reductions as they're supposed to be, so be it. +1, lol.

Edited by ShinRyoma, 24 December 2015 - 05:23 PM.

[Xellie]

Reverting changes already made and that we are used to might not be that good, it even applies to those 50%redux. But if changing stupid emperium to a 70k ice pickable target means leaving the damn Cards and/or reductions as they're supoosed to be, so be it. +1, lol.

 

dat picking and choosing doe

 

I for one will be quite happy to two shot emperiums again, if this balances being one shot by hibram or SB, then perhaps this is how it's meant to be.

 

Classic has to evolve to move forward, that is the point. Vanilla isn't always best.

Edited by Xellie, 24 December 2015 - 05:25 PM.

[ShinRyoma]

Change is not always beneficial. For such a small and underpopulated server, it should be based on feedback. That's why we need some way better than forums. Lots of people complain they dont come here often. Im here casually for a week or so and I see always the same persons with 10k posts repeating themselves or throwing bad words at each other. Not to mention the Batman dude. I may add stuff later Im using mobile and im drunk bcuz xmas party.

Edited by ShinRyoma, 24 December 2015 - 05:32 PM.

[Xellie]

Change is not always beneficial. For such a small and underpopulated server, it should be based on feedback. That's why we need some way better than forums. Lots of people complain they dont come here often. Im here casually for a week or só and I see always the same persons with 10k posta repeatong themselves or throwing bad words at each other. Not to mention the Batman dude. I may add stuff later.

 

Well when 2/3 the server stamp their feet and say no to any change and refuse to even consider the prospect of something being different, everyone else gets chased off by being attacked for proposing things -   one person racks up 10k posts on their behalf. You have no idea how many people ask me to post for them because of it.

 

No, not all changes are beneficial, but then again... I guess I'm personally invested in this one because my favourite class/role is heavily nerfed and everyone is ok with it because it's not them. They argue that the server should be vanilla, but hey, I think we know that's not always the best flavour.

 

so this should really be a great example of "but that's not what kRO did" as being a point that change isn't always bad. Every argument vs the redux applies to emperium change btw. It taking longer makes it harder for small guilds to win before they die, etc, etc, etc. I could go on, but this example might open some eyes to perceived biases and get some grown up chatter about pros and cons.

Edited by Xellie, 24 December 2015 - 05:35 PM.

[AlmrOfAtlas]

I can find out where you live. One meg is enough bitcoin br0

 

p.s: this is why you're the derp one

 

No.

 

Also actual lol for that 1 star vote.

Edited by AlmrOfAtlas, 24 December 2015 - 05:41 PM.

[ShinRyoma]

I believe gvgs are different than emp Breaking. I cannot quite help since I care little to none about emp Breaking. Unfortunately getting forts is the shortest way to gods. I also like to support xandy and the guild. For all I care, 2hit as many emps you want, if that helps keeping stuff as they're supposed to be.

[Xellie]

The castle is the goal o.o if you don't want the castle and you don't have a goal, why woe?

 

win conditions are better than participation rewards. I think it adds more intensity, more spice to the fight.

[AlmrOfAtlas]

The castle is the goal o.o if you don't want the castle and you don't have a goal, why woe?

win conditions are better than participation rewards. I think it adds more intensity, more spice to the fight.

He came. He saw. He got concussed and forgot why he was there.

Edited by AlmrOfAtlas, 24 December 2015 - 06:16 PM.

[Xellie]

veni vidi reliqui

 

[ShinRyoma]

I came, I saw, I had fun. Castle aint the goal for everyone. Ask archie and his friends. I just like woe and its environment. Replicate it and its attendance in some PvP room and I leave the whole woe to you.

Edited by ShinRyoma, 24 December 2015 - 06:00 PM.

[Xellie]

See that's why I feel like the point of WoE is lost on many people. This is an official server and that's kind of the point... for there to be a point to WoE.

 

 

It's like the only thing I agree with that trollrin' champ player on - even if our methods are different because I learned that Classic doesn't reward that style of play. But someone gotta defend for you to have fun. If there was no motivation to defend, people wouldn't do it. The castle drive the fights you value. Desire to own the castle / prevent the reward drive those fight. Take away and reward and you'll get malicious little sinxs yolosoloing their way to the emperium.

[ShinRyoma]

I dont think the point is lost. Its just a different point of view. I used to care about winning. Back in 2008. That desire is long gone, along with that teenager that had all day long to play and no bills to pay. Its not necessarily bad, my guildies care a lot about other aspects of the game and I care about them. I usually try to speak as Ryoma, rampage leadership member and not Ryoma, the weekend warrior.
I strongly believe what ive been posting is beneficial for all of them. If it was just for me I'd not even bother playing official MMO, despite all time and effort I did put here.

[Xellie]

p much the same here

 

I only resort to soloyolo if someone really annoyed me (it takes a real LORD to do that) or if I feel like I need to help my guild. My guild drive my char strength I do it all for them.

 

But I also know that without other players, without a goal and without someone to fight the guild grows stale and quiet. What benefits the other side drives my side to grow.

[ShinRyoma]

Tried to PM you, either you blocked me or you have a full inbox anyway here it goes: What did Hanacan do to you after all? We have no longer the lords remnants for me to ask. I joined the lords when i started Classic and it lasted no longer than a week. It took a BR T0s player to tell me that he ndl cheated and all. 

[rojoky113]

PLEASE link him to the video.

 

Please.

 

I love that video with all my heart.

 

Yeah Hanacan was all up in there with the ndl and stuff but it was someone else talking ish that really set that off haha. Meast wasn't it?

 

I have to do it check your PMs shin.

Edited by rojoky113, 24 December 2015 - 07:00 PM.

[Xellie]

Tried to PM you, either you blocked me or you have a full inbox anyway here it goes: What did Hanacan do to you after all? We have no longer the lords remnants for me to ask. I joined the lords when i started Classic and it lasted no longer than a week. It took a BR T0s player to tell me that he ndl cheated and all. 

 

he was ap/ndl but uhhh....

 

 

edit: inbox prob full, let me check it out

Edited by Xellie, 24 December 2015 - 07:04 PM.

[ShinRyoma]

LOL DAT SONG. HUE. At least something to save a not-so-great night. Meast wasn't BR tho. In fact I know so many non-BR tards on Classic that I have to say they put us BR's to shame. It's a whole new level, lol. But i think I get it, thanks.

[rojoky113]

hu-e, hu-e, hu-eeeeeeee.

[Xellie]

I don;t do that over one guy.... there was a lot of KSing and trash talking and bs lmao, but that's one of my favourite vids anyway lol

[Myzery]

Emps on Classic should be "Classic" emp

They take forever to break and would do a bit to help out the econ stalemate

[Heart]

Emps on Classic should be "Classic" emp

They take forever to break and would do a bit to help out the econ stalemate

 

Since GMs wont help us handle the econ farm fest I think might just be a good idea, even more so looking at WoE2.

[Xellie]

Well damn. If they weren't listening before they will never even read it now lol