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#1 ericcc

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 07:08 PM

so i have +10TSOD 6/5Spell, RWC Pendant 2 3/3Spell, FAW 18 Spell, +12KK Skull Cap, DexBoots Spell 5, level 3 Ventus still dont get Insta Cast


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Posted 02 January 2016 - 08:50 PM

depends which skill you're talking about. there is fixed cast and variable cast. for sorc, diamond dust is full variable but i think most other skills are a combination of both. most things that reduce cast time reduce variable cast (i.e. spell enchants, KK card). the 0.5 sec cast reduction from dex boots and the ventus cast time reduction are both fixed cast reductions.

 

so for variable cast reduction, you have:

  • +10TSOD 6/5Spell: 20%
  • RWC Pendant 2 3/3Spell: 32%
  • FAW 18 Spell: 30%
  • +12KK Skull Cap: 12% + 10% from combo w/TSOD
  • DexBoots Spell 5: 10%

= 114% variable cast reduction. so you should at least have instacast for diamond dust

 

 

and for fixed, you have:

  • Dex boots (with 120 dex i assume): 0.5 sec with 120 dex
  • Ventus: 1 sec (remember to set it to passive mode)

i don't think these 2 things stack (i think? i could be wrong). but they will stack with a % fixed cast reducing item/skill like sacra. so if you have dex boots + sacra + 100% variable cast, your level 5 psychic wave should be casting at 0.05 sec (50% of [0.6-0.5])


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#3 ericcc

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 09:17 PM

Oh thank you.. Maybe you can Help me out with my Skill Tree too Please.. my 1stJob and 2nd Job skil are messed


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Posted 02 January 2016 - 09:57 PM

like...what? you're a big boy, you can afford all those expensive gears. i'm sure you can figure out the 1st and 2nd job skills yourself. if you have specific questions that haven't already been answered on forums, you can ask them here. otherwise, i'm not gonna hold your hand.


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 10:37 PM

Ventus and dex boots do stack actually, and this guy is not saying if he using orlean or phen, maybe thats why he is not getting instant tough. Anyway what lvl is he? Does he have 120 dex?
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 01:22 AM

Not sure if OP is aware or not, but fixed cast reduction from Ventus is not a passive skill. It's its passive mode skill.

 

You need to summon Ventus (any level) and use Spirit Control 1 to put it to passive mode.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 05:10 AM

I have found instant cast to be unnecessary in PVM recently, thanks to spellflow shadow gears.SO you can wear elemental armor and two elvira's and be OK with an unbreakable < 0.3 second cast bar for psychic wave, etc.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 02:19 PM

Spellflow is the new hotness.
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 05:27 PM

yeah spellflow is awesome. it took me some getting used to not having to phen switch, but now my fingers are free to spam so many other things.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:15 PM

Talks about broken.. 


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 03:55 PM

Off topic question :

 

I have +4 SpellFlow set on my Sorc atm and whenever I have my Lvl 2 Ventus set to Passive , I don't know if the spells were draining my SP like hell due to ventus , spellflow set or that was just me casting like a freak ? I didn't get much how ventus works in terms of SP consumption . Does it consume additional SP on each cast you make ?


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 04:43 PM

are you using energy coat? that's the #1 culprit for losing SP


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 04:55 PM

Spellflow set makes skills cost 40%   it -1% per upgrade. so at most you can negate 30% if its at a +10 set. 

 

 

combined with things like energy coat, or runaway magic proc, or mistress, or gtb, 

 

But afaik, ventus doesn't drain your sp. 


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 05:43 PM

Spellflow set makes skills cost 40%   it -1% per upgrade. so at most you can negate 30% if its at a +10 set. 

 

 

No, it is 35% that can be negated. At +9 the armor is 3%, shield and shoes always reduce by 1%. Then as set effect, refines can total 30%.


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Posted 11 January 2016 - 11:08 PM

are you using energy coat? that's the #1 culprit for losing SP

 

Nope. Doing Solo TI with energy coat =  respawn to save point :wah:

 

Spellflow set makes skills cost 40%   it -1% per upgrade. so at most you can negate 30% if its at a +10 set. 

 

 

combined with things like energy coat, or runaway magic proc, or mistress, or gtb, 

 

But afaik, ventus doesn't drain your sp. 

 

 

No, it is 35% that can be negated. At +9 the armor is 3%, shield and shoes always reduce by 1%. Then as set effect, refines can total 30%.

 

I see , it's the series of casting then . Thanks fer the answers :no1:

 

Follow - up off topic question :

1) Should I bother getting other spirits ? Haven't calculated my skill points till end game but I want to have an idea if I can keep Agni and Ventus or can it be Terra and Ventus ?

2) Regarding screenshot below :

 

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1) Solo PVM-wise , should I keep the KK CoD or it will benefit me more if I put on my KK Skull Cap?

2) Thoughts on putting AGI,LUK and STR ? I'm planning to go 120 INT and Dex then the rest for vit

3) While we still have Mesmerist in Thor , are there any Trans  skill that may be useful for solo leveling ?

4) When both +9 , Valk Shield or Immune Shield ?

5) Is it useful to wear Books ? How about Night Magician Cap?

 

Last question : Are there any Solo MVP hunters for Sorce or that's just too hard and require MVPs / Gods ?

 

Thanks fer all feedback 


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 01:49 AM

magician night's cap + books are for spellfister/hindsight. stick with tsod or prolly mental stick for pwave.
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 01:55 AM

1) Skull cap is better than CoD, since you have a TSOD. Also frees up the mid slot for some immunity card, or something more fancy such as mistress.
2) If its just a pvm oriented character you are free to do whatever, you don't need much high vit either. My 175 sorc has 125 int, 120 dex, 80 agi, 90 vit, 20 luk.

3) It's really just the pre-reqs mostly. I like, i mean, i love Killing Cloud, for that you need 5 points in earth spike. Free cast is not really a must, you can live w/o it, specially with fast casts.
4) Valk shield doesnt require upgrade, the def added is kinda meh. Just whatever shield with the correct cards should do.
5) No. No.

I can kill a whole lot of MVPs on my sorc, i don't exactly hunt cuz im lazy. But am able to solo things such as OGH, Bios, Morse, GMT, etc. No mvp/gods, just some nice gears.


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 03:20 AM

I like freecast at least level one to prevent position bugging. Harder to kite without it. My pure pvm sorc has all 4 summons and Killing cloud to proc temp boots. Plus the multi hit helps in instances like bakonawa.

Why do you have foresight. Get rid of that trash skill. Instead, max your endows for better elemental damage. Foresight is pointless when you can get instantcast easier now.

Sorcs can kill most mvps, except maybe like half a dozen.. Bee, valk, ifrit, etc
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 03:46 AM

just dont max fire endow :v


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 03:59 AM

Maxing endows for striking is never a bad thing.
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:19 AM

not when you solo 95% of the time :v


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:29 AM

It helps with the atk portion of varytr spear, and since wind is the best element to add damage too, to me, its worth it. What other skills to get if its not woe? Got a few free skill points
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:46 AM

The atk portion is totaly negligible and ur dmg barelly changes even with a maxed striking
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:53 AM

Id still max striking and endows instead of woe skills like arrullo the extra skill points makes it work. What else are you getting aside from that?
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 04:55 AM

And i can add at roughly 10k with elviras tikabalang and water insig with striking up

With perfect chaining, you cast VS 2.5x more than any other skill in the cycle. Thats at least 30k more dps in your cycle.

To me, thats worth it.

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