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#26 Ashuckel

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 07:02 AM

Not 100% entirely sure(can't log in now to check), but it should look +/- like this: http://irowiki.org/~...lakDkAdBdBdnIn1

Got the ground skills to 4, since it adds 19% more damage with that element for 5min. All the insignias. EV is for some times i go to pvp, and to tele some mobs as well. Striking 4 is cuz there wasn't much more usefull things to get, still adds 149 atk tho.


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 07:10 AM

In my times with insignias, (soloing) ive only used water to pump wind damage. Otherwise youre always too mobile and you cant insig and move.

The other insignias ive used in (stationary) BB parties with RK killer (fastest method of BBing but you still need a gene for the holy mvps) is earth, for fire db, and fire, for water db. You have no use for wind insignia.

Also, wanted to add, water insig for mvp soloing, not leveling.

I cant himeyasha on a phone. Ill post mine when i get home

Edited by Lapphy, 12 January 2016 - 07:15 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 07:19 AM

Just some examples

Fire insignia: GMT, Bios Island, Morse Cave, OGH. Almost everywhere, the combo is basically pwave>varytr>diamond dust> varytr

Earth insignia: OGH, Bios Island, Morse Cave, earth and undead mvps, there are plenty of them.

Water insignia: Neutral, ghost and water targets. Dont need explanation i guess.

Wind insignia: Cancels the regeneration from water insignia on water monsters, mainly used on demon temple 1st mvp. Boost damage against stuff like mistress, white lady, and usefull on pvp, put this above a target in hide and use earth grave.
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 07:47 AM

I still repeat, most insignias are a waste of points cause youre never stationary. Your point was to solo, so demon temple is a moot arguement. Most important is water, for wind boost magic. Why would you even use fire insig in GMT is beyond me. With that arguement, you can use any insignia anywhere, but none as damagr boosting as your wind spells. At least with water insignia, you dont (not) use all your spells. With any other insignia you do less damage with 1 skill.

I dont need any insigs to kill missy. I can do it straight casting. If you do then youre just aiming for high numbers

And there was no mention of pvp. If you want pvp, thats an entirely different skill/stat distribution and different gear

Edited by Lapphy, 12 January 2016 - 07:49 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 08:38 AM

this is how i would build a pvm sorc. 

 

http://irowiki.org/~...lakCkndndAdnIn1


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 08:57 AM

If your are never stationary, thats just you bro.

If you could just spam varytr undefinitely yes, you wouldnt need any other insignia. Since you cant, any dps boost is welcome, wasnt you who said striking was good for varytr to increase dps? :3

The debate is also senseless since is more a playstyle preference than anything else. I like to have the highest damage possible always.
And sorcs have a lot of spare points any build you choose. See, EV for example, dont work in most of the places, and no instance at all. Byt what else would be really really a must to get, nothing.
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 08:59 AM

Err, firewall is super usefull to proc RM '-'
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Posted 12 January 2016 - 09:15 AM

Thanks fer the feedbacks , I will check my sorc before I go to bed (currently awake for the past 27 hrs now and counting....it's not good fer health btw...imma sleep in a bit after I reset my sorc :wah: )

 

edit: pardon if my engurish is getting worse ...lacking enough energy to translate words from Filipino to English 


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 09:26 AM

yes, 50-55% increase in wind skills. You can't do that with any other elemental. at most you can increase (fire, water earth) by 15% so why would you use any other element when you already have 150-55% wind damage? So if you want highest damage possible like you said, you're stuck with wind. summon any other element, and your damage is already at 1/3 of the potential to spell chain cause of fixed cast time. 2~ second VS and 2~ second EG  (assuming dex shoes) 

 

With a wind element you can continuously cast. 

 

yes im not stationary, because i mob to level. Try firewalling a mob that isn't a straight line. hence why i use killing cloud to proc RM.

 

Ideal spell cycle

*pw -> vs -> dd -> eg -> vs -> pw* repeat. if you subtract one element because of (not) water insignia (no fire skill) then you cant use your entire spell cycle instead of your example of a fire insig not using EG. 150-155% extra wind damage is already going to be greater than any insignia other than water. So if you want max damage, wind will be your best element. 

 

It seems like you're argueing just to argue. you're not wrong, but you're also not giving ideal situations. just "what ifs"

i didn't make 8 sorcerers to test things for no reason lol. 

I may not know much about any other class, but i know my caster DPS sorc

 


Edited by Lapphy, 12 January 2016 - 09:31 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 09:40 AM

cool, i know my sorc too.

So be good on your own, and i'll be good on mine.


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 06:47 PM

other insignias are good too, for rune knight's dragon breath xD


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Posted 13 January 2016 - 04:20 AM

The other insignias ive used in (stationary) BB parties with RK killer (fastest method of BBing but you still need a gene for the holy mvps) is earth, for fire db, and fire, for water db. You have no use for wind insignia.

 

 

 

i said that. but the cooldown on insignias makes it not viable for moving parties. 


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Posted 13 January 2016 - 03:11 PM

If I get 120 Int and Dex , can I let go of my RWC pens and switch to Elvira Mael pens ? I got pair of 2/2 and 3/2 spell RWC pens but I fergot to put slot on both and I don't think I can undo the last enchant :hmm:


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Posted 13 January 2016 - 03:46 PM

when maelstrom procs it will eat your own spells too :v


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Posted 13 January 2016 - 04:27 PM

Maelstrom pendants are bad for mages.


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Posted 14 January 2016 - 11:56 PM

Not getting one then...hoping that RWC comes back before I can get a pair of elvira


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 07:32 AM

RWC with %MATK are still better than maelstrom pendants tough if you are able to reach high matk and have instant with stats.


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 08:12 AM

Yeah what sewasan said. The 3 int (perfect roll) is better than the 1% matk (7%[maelstrom] - 6%[rwc])
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Posted 29 January 2016 - 09:38 AM

Yeah I got not so perfect pendants but I was too excited I missed the slots and got random enchants for the card slot :wah: I still find it fun to grind on New World since Dolomedes is a piece of cake . I was amazed to see 86k damage with RM proc w/o striking on Val Spear :omg:


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Posted 29 January 2016 - 10:34 AM

Rwc is 7% (1% on its own, 6% from enchanting)
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Posted 30 January 2016 - 01:31 PM

this is how i would build a pvm sorc. 

 

http://irowiki.org/~...lakCkndndAdnIn1

 

You didnt level fire/water/wind insignia to 2 but you maxed tera and put a point in earth insignia? In what way tera is better than ventus?
BTW, tank in water armour and water insignia lvl 2 on Ifrit. Now calculate damage reduction you provided to tank and how much damage your insignia deals to boss.


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 02:44 PM

Ifrit uses ME, rip insignia :v
 


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 02:50 PM

You didnt level fire/water/wind insignia to 2 but you maxed tera and put a point in earth insignia? In what way tera is better than ventus?
BTW, tank in water armour and water insignia lvl 2 on Ifrit. Now calculate damage reduction you provided to tank and how much damage your insignia deals to boss.


I do a lot of BB parties. Thefastest way to BB is super rk (pop multiple, kill multiple bbs) earth insignia amps fire db
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