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[Naitsabeszner]

Hey guys, just wanted to ask if my sura would be able to have high damage by having 70k hp?

[hotel]

What do you mean by 'high' damage?

[Naitsabeszner]

i mean can i still deal 10k+ damage unto players?

[Ashuckel]

depends on your weapon, on how much hp you have at the moment vs total hp, the skill lvl used, and most importantly enemy reductions. It all depends

[meditation]

Dat 1 hp left

[Naitsabeszner]

well i'm planning to have a +9 G. Mace, +9 iHBP, +9 G. Suit, +9 E. Variant, +10 Turkey (Bungisngis) i was thinking if i still making huge amount of damage even without Tao Card

[hotel]

Regardless of your gear if you really want to deal 'huge' damage the most important thing is to be missing as much hp as possible. A goh from a tao'ed sura won't do -_- if he's full hp, or very close to it.

 

It's impossible to tell you accurately how much damage you'll deal without considering the circumstances, but from a quick glance i'd say you'll have trouble killing most targets effectively in a gvg setting unless the circumstances are heavily in your favor. Pvp less so because there's no skill penalty and a lot of people build like glass cannons in there.

[Ashuckel]

a taoed sura full hp goh will hurt bruh believe me :v

well depends on his weapon a lot too... *stares at those +13 kvms*

[hotel]

If the tao'ed sura is missing the same amount of hp as a non tao'ed sura, and they have the same gear, they're going to do the same damage.

[CadburyChocolate]

a taoed sura full hp goh will hurt bruh believe me :v

well depends on his weapon a lot too... *stares at those +13 +15 kvms*

when in thor

[ka10]

think might be better to have just asked how well you could kill rather than about damage specifically;

the setup you mentioned is essentially low in reducs so prepare to go down if you happen to get hit by a substantial attack;

w/out tao, would recommend to stick with the woe set if possible, unless you just want to mess around and try pick on (undergeared) stragglers;

say, at 100~75% cHP, you probably only kill very low-reduc, low-mHP players (pure glass cannons);

at 50%~30% cHP, might be able to also kill med-HP, low-reduc or low-HP, med-reduc players

at red bar range, might be able to also kill med~high-HP (non-tao), low~med-reduc players if GoH is spammed 2-3 times in quick succession (possible for low lvls of GoH w/out strings, higher lvls of GoH w/ strings) - may have to even do 3 fast GoHs if they are decent enough to keep potting and not just stand there to take your hits;

of course, regardless of reducs/mHP, other players that happen to be at low cHP might as well go down if you hit them with half/low-cHP GoH;

red bar is risky in general (best used w/ a sac RG), but you could try it if you can 1 hit kill certain targets and are confident that you can actually get the hit off w/out getting hit in return (mainly in non-busy/1v1 situations)

even naturally low mHP classes like WLs/sorcs can be hard to kill if they are on full reducs, also thanks to energy coat;

the players that you probably wont be able to down are those with very high mHP (natural for classes like RK/RG, especially w/ tao, or other classes w/ tao + reducs) (assuming they are not low cHP of course), especially if they're also on high/full reducs (woe sets, CEB/RPB, thara shield, handky, etc, CK if applicable, GR (you can endow vs DR users, but the overall damage is still treated as neutral vs ghost));

there are also those that may have barely lived the initial GoH hit, but can avoid getting spammed (very mobile characters like shura, SCs, or with avoidance/protection skills like hide/pnuema/SW/etc - which buys them enough time to pot up sufficiently before you could land a 2nd hit)

Edited by ka10, 07 January 2016 - 04:54 PM.

[Hissis]

goh is  broken,u can kill almost everyone,don't worry -__________-

 

 

Edited by Hissis, 07 January 2016 - 07:46 PM.