so you're saying nerf bt but keep sin's hider and penetration? if that is the case that mean that tank should be tank and dps as dps right ( and for that i do agree) but with the current setup sin's GT can one shot tanks, so without bt why would any one play as tank if they can't even tank...
theres just too much problem that nerfing one class will not help, and i think devs knows this too and that is why rather than nerfing some class they go with buffing other class so in the future everyone can one shot every one...
Yes same page that tanks should not out dps damage dealing classes. And as you may see, other classes also causes imbalances w/c could be then fixed when tanks are not anymore the greatest dmg dealing class. 1st Ill address the last. A sinx now can macro grimtooth & scout let's say at grasses then kill then rehide. Probably watching movie then if a kill trashtalk then wait again. Pre-aov you must do the kick skill, double attack x 2 or w8 proc to ulti(forgot skill names w/ shadow) or if enemy's a tank use stun skill first cycle skills, etc. I would rather play w/ skills & let's you think, dodge enemy aoe or cc perhaps than do macro pvp what we do now.
Then we are talking w/ penetration. there's a formula somewhere but for fast explanation, my bear w/ full +20 gears is having most likely 88-90% def depending w/ buffs & 65% if i remove those gears. That's the same as someone w/ around 25% penetration w/c is anyone can now achieve via serenia set cards & targeted penetration from gears. So anyone w/ this penetration can dmg me as computed def 65% or as me having stripped all armors.
Ymir w/ that set cards & gears will yield around 35-36% penetration w/c reduces a tank like me to ~55% def. If you count sinx's penetration+crit buff penetration will be 41-42% w/c makes my def ~48-49.
Simple xls assuming all variables have serenia set cards & gears w/ penetration
Full +20 tank 90% def(the target)
attacker after penetration applied
any class 65%
thief class ymir'd 55%
ymir'd sinx w/ buff 49%
Cloth classes 70% def
attacker after penetration applied
any class 45%
thief class ymir'd 35%
ymir'd sinx w/ buff 29%
Conclusion:
Devs could either upgrade cloth armors next set to like sm set(as serenia sm gears have more def compared to cloth type : compare sm's eddga & serenia) or balance penetration buffs from thieves & sinx buff or change defense formula or change penetration formula.
