53 replies to this topic

[Zayaan]

Technically yes, but I would argue it shouldn't be.

 

You can hitlock in ET for all MVPs IF you had the range you did outside, but you don't and that is a part of ET mechanics IMO.

 

Why shouldn't it be? It's pretty much the same as playing at a higher resolution. Increasing zoom out does not increase your attack range or sight range. There is nothing special about ET or the MVPs in it, your attack and sight range are the exact same in and out of ET.

[Nirvanna21]

Why shouldn't it be? It's pretty much the same as playing at a higher resolution. Increasing zoom out does not increase your attack range or sight range. There is nothing special about ET or the MVPs in it, your attack and sight range are the exact same in and out of ET.

 

Actually they aren't, it is reduced by exactly 1 cell. Test it yourself man.

[Zayaan]

Actually they aren't, it is reduced by exactly 1 cell. Test it yourself man.

 

...did you test it? Count the amount of cells between you and a monster before it disappears from your screen in ET. It'll be the exact same as outside of ET.

[Dadiris]

Probably, but you need to research enchants, not exactly difficult to do with iRO Wiki.

 

It will, you are dealing 7 attacks per second ya know?

 

If you need to suppliment CRIT, then yes, but there are many good options for bow cards... just stay away from Archer Skeleton Cards.

 

But where can i see what enchant is possible to put in each part of the gear? like can i put sharp enchant on the white wing manteau? or in the brooch?

[Nirvanna21]

...did you test it? Count the amount of cells between you and a monster before it disappears from your screen in ET. It'll be the exact same as outside of ET.

 

Yeah I did, your viewing range is reduced by a single cell which also counts within the range required to hitlock.

 

It's why when hitlocking Ifrit outside of ET, it occurs perfectly, but when inside ET it breaks the lock immediately. This happens when you are too close.

 

But where can i see what enchant is possible to put in each part of the gear? like can i put sharp enchant on the white wing manteau? or in the brooch?

 

>_> just use Google!

 

But here, http://irowiki.org/w..._Rune_Knight.29

Edited by Nirvanna21, 17 January 2016 - 11:03 AM.

[Dadiris]

Yeah I did, your viewing range is reduced by a single cell which also counts within the range required to hitlock.

 

It's why when hitlocking Ifrit outside of ET, it occurs perfectly, but when inside ET it breaks the lock immediately. This happens when you are too close.

 

 

>_> just use Google!

 

But here, http://irowiki.org/w..._Rune_Knight.29

 

i didn't even know tha you could put diferent enchant if you refine it higher, i don't know how to goggle these things, thanks for the help

[Zayaan]

Yeah I did, your viewing range is reduced by a single cell which also counts within the range required to hitlock.

 

It's why when hitlocking Ifrit outside of ET, it occurs perfectly, but when inside ET it breaks the lock immediately. This happens when you are too close.

 

ET : http://www.divine-pr...lay/download/67
Outside ET : http://www.divine-pr...lay/download/68

[Nirvanna21]

ET : http://www.divine-pr...lay/download/67
Outside ET : http://www.divine-pr...lay/download/68

 

Well now I am stupified.

 

Then what the hell is the difference with ET MVPs and everything else?

[Ashuckel]

ET mvps have slight differences on their behavior than on the outside world.

[Nirvanna21]

ET mvps have slight differences on their behavior than on the outside world.

 

I wish we could get an official idea on the exact differences :X

 

I find Ifrit and Egnigem piss easy to hitlock outside, but inside Egnigem is a 50/50 chance, and Ifrit just doesn't stay still for more than 3 seconds :X

[Zayaan]

ET mvps have slight differences on their behavior than on the outside world.

 

ET MVPs and world MVPs are the exact same. Monsters summoned by items (Bloody Branch) are a little different. They do not use skills until a player hits them.

 

I wish we could get an official idea on the exact differences :X

 

I find Ifrit and Egnigem piss easy to hitlock outside, but inside Egnigem is a 50/50 chance, and Ifrit just doesn't stay still for more than 3 seconds :X

 

I didn't have any trouble hitlocking Ifrit in ET when I used to play my aspd Ranger.

[Nirvanna21]

ET MVPs and world MVPs are the exact same. Monsters summoned by items (Bloody Branch) are a little different. They do not use skills until a player hits them.

 

 

I didn't have any trouble hitlocking Ifrit in ET when I used to play my aspd Ranger.

 

Don't suppose you have a replay file :X? I do remember that DL one which was impressive, and I am* wondering if something else is at fault @_@

 

*Edit*

 

Thanks for the info Zefram, can't wait

 

P.S. sorry for derailing the topic peoples~

Edited by Nirvanna21, 17 January 2016 - 01:00 PM.

[Kupo54]

Don't suppose you have a replay file :X? I do remember that DL one which was impressive, and I am* wondering if something else is at fault @_@

 

*Edit*

 

Thanks for the info Zefram, can't wait

 

P.S. sorry for derailing the topic peoples~

 

For ET are you fighting ifrit on the stairs or up top? it could be the stairs throwing off the hitlock

Edited by Kupo54, 18 January 2016 - 08:52 AM.

[LiteAdi]

i think i read some where in forum bragging having 193 aspd and 120 crit without supply when i ask the equip she/ he said  already upload some video with eq in forum and i search there is no video that she/he ever upload about the eq. i guess it just bluff

[YangeWenli]

i think i read some where in forum bragging having 193 aspd and 120 crit without supply when i ask the equip she/ he said  already upload some video with eq in forum and i search there is no video that she/he ever upload about the eq. i guess it just bluff

 

Its simple to figure out what the person had...instead of adding dmg cards/enchant you are stacking aspd and crit

 

Full ASPD FAW wth Cenere...

Critical enchant WWS/Sniping Suit

Upgraded Temp AGI boot AD4

Sharp enchant BxB with drosera

Bako Tat/Glorious Ring/Luk Glove

+7 Critical Shadow armor

 

Just cause you cant do it doesn't mean it not possible...

Edited by YangeWenli, 18 January 2016 - 09:58 AM.

[Kupo54]

Is it possible to reach 100% crit with ww set? if yes, can you tell me what enchants, top/mid/low and acessory to use?

 

If i have 193 aspd and 100% crit, i guess i could make it work, the double strafe won't come too many times unless i'm with really bad luck

 

I'm already trying to sell my +9 BxB and buy a +9 bxb clean sharp/sharp and put 2 drosera cards, this will get me +42 crit with only the bow, do you think it's worth?

 

My ranger has already 38 crit

 

193 ASPD and 100 Crit with WWSet is possible but you are sacrificing a ton of damage from no Lucky Day/Hawkeye+Horrible WWBrooch(No MOH/Luk Glove/RWC Ring/Bako Tat)

WWSuit(Sharp Enchants[+0 Enchants])

WWManteau(Agi Enchants[+0 Enchants])

WWBoots(Sharp Enchants[+9 Enchants])

 

AS MvPing is 100x easier than ASPD MvPing, it is just hit and run...

but ASPD MvPing has a lot more potential for DPS. if you do not know how to play ranger or don't have the funds to gear it just do an AS build

[Sleepy]

Its simple to figure out what the person had...instead of adding dmg cards/enchant you are stacking aspd and crit

 

Full ASPD FAW wth Cenere...

Critical enchant WWS/Sniping Suit

Upgraded Temp AGI boot AD4

Sharp enchant BxB with drosera

Bako Tat/Glorious Ring/Luk Glove

+7 Critical Shadow armor

 

Just cause you cant do it doesn't mean it not possible...

 

Ah I did this without having to use Agi Boots.

 

You can get to 193 with Luk Boots and +1 aspd/AD3/AD3 FAW with Cenere Card (Along with +1 ASPD from BxB ofcourse)

 

In fact, you don't even need AD3/AD3/ASPD+1 in the FAW 193 without buffs.  Just get a +1 ASPD Rudra and 2x +9 Rapid Pendants and you can get Fatal3/Fatal3/ASPD+1

[Ashuckel]

but ASPD MvPing has a lot more potential for DPS

Depends on how your AS gear looks like :v also intercalling AS with Aimed Bolt 10 is really really strong

[YangeWenli]

Depends on how your AS gear looks like :v also intercalling AS with Aimed Bolt 10 is really really strong

 

if we talking full end game dream stuff aspd ranger win

Edited by YangeWenli, 18 January 2016 - 11:27 AM.

[Ashuckel]

not a single mvp

[Nirvanna21]

not a single mvp

 

End game does not always mean MVP ^

[Ashuckel]

With both HE as eddga proc you can do 40~60k ish on a optimal setup. This with obviously great gears. Wich is a +/- 400~600k dps counting with warg and fear breeze etc.

You can also do 1m+ AS and 2x aimbolt( in 3s total) for at least 150k each(with wwset), wich is also 400k+ dps. With experience with trapping you can move the mvp onto ankle snares and aimbolt precisely, making the combo damage even higher. Or if you are kinda stupid like me make a pure Aimbolt ranger, with temporal boots and stuff. During the procs, still 700k ish AS and 400k+ aimbots :v

[shdwmndrksn]

i hope this is w/in topic..

 

 

is it worth to use 2x drosera card (+15 crit each)? or is % dmg better (AS)?

 

*for pvm, ctrl click players. thanks for reply! 

Edited by shdwmndrksn, 02 February 2016 - 10:50 PM.

[CadburyChocolate]

Ah I did this without having to use Agi Boots.

 

You can get to 193 with Luk Boots and +1 aspd/AD3/AD3 FAW with Cenere Card (Along with +1 ASPD from BxB ofcourse)

 

In fact, you don't even need AD3/AD3/ASPD+1 in the FAW 193 without buffs.  Just get a +1 ASPD Rudra and 2x +9 Rapid Pendants and you can get Fatal3/Fatal3/ASPD+1

You cant wear 2 rapid pendants

[DeadIntern]

if we talking full end game dream stuff aspd ranger win

 

I think if we're really comparing end game dream stuff for PVM, AS/AimBolt/trap ranger will win.

 

i hope this is w/in topic..

 

 

is it worth to use 2x drosera card (+15 crit each)? or is % dmg better (AS)?

 

*for pvm, ctrl click players. thanks for reply! 

 

More crit is better than more damage for auto-attacks.