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[bigmacxx]

I'm currently start to play magician and decided to promote to invorker. May I know which items is good at lv 40 to 60 for stacking attack speed? Thanks

[Agitodesu]

Verdure ryvius 2 piece lvl 5x
3* lava necklace lvl 4x
Valkyrie set lvl 45/55
Heirloom hookah hat lvl20
Burlune banana bracelet lvl 55

[bigmacxx]

Verdure ryvius 2 piece lvl 5x
3* lava necklace lvl 4x
Valkyrie set lvl 45/55
Heirloom hookah hat lvl20
Burlune banana bracelet lvl 55

Thank you!

[bigmacxx]

Diffusion cannon and double shot , which is better?

[Agitodesu]

Pve, double shot.
Pvp, diffusion cannon.

[Precrush]

In bosses diffusion cannon is definetly better for the higher dps, but if mobs are piled up you can get 4 hits on 1 double shot. I still prefer diffusion cannon nowdays for mobs too, the bigger spread just makes it easier to hit. Wouldn't want to do too much as an invoker right?

[Agitodesu]

 

Super out of date video on the difference. But, I don't think these skills have changed in a while.(Except in pvp damage reduction)

[Homurasan]

In bosses diffusion cannon is definetly better for the higher dps

 

Not really. From what I witnessed, the damage difference isn't too bigt as long as element damage doesn't completely overcome magic damage for whatever reason.

2 x 2.500 damage for Double shot are around 3 x 2.000 (more like 1.800 from what I can see) damage for diffusion cannon. ~20% increase, but you have to be closer to the monsters and bosses, which might result in any sort of crowd control (knockdown and flinch mostly) that would make you lose this higher DPS.

[Precrush]

Not really. From what I witnessed, the damage difference isn't too bigt as long as element damage doesn't completely overcome magic damage for whatever reason.
2 x 2.500 damage for Double shot are around 3 x 2.000 (more like 1.800 from what I can see) damage for diffusion cannon. ~20% increase, but you have to be closer to the monsters and bosses, which might result in any sort of crowd control (knockdown and flinch mostly) that would make you lose this higher DPS.

Well I think diffusion cannon has something in the range of 75-80% dmg per hit so it would come up to that 20-30% more dmg with 3 hits compared to 2 100% ones. 20% is quite a lot and I think it's suprisingly easy to get all of the 3 hits in.

That video is damn well made, gotta try out double shot again.

[Mizuro75]

Double shot can also hit multiple targets, I tried this out some time ago and with 2 bullets it was able to deal damage to 3 enemys with 5 hits out of 2 bullets.

 

Diffusion Cannon always does 3 hits with 3 bullets, atleast that's my experience and the reason why I use double shot in PvE.

 

The times I need for things like paris are also confirming these theory.

[Agitodesu]

Also, unless you are only fighting a boss, Diffusion will be better especially something like elga, the damage will be larger than double shot.

 

However, it is highly unlikely for other dungeons or mission maps to just simply or casually switch to diffusion or double shot whenever you please. It may work once, but the cooldown is way to long unless you change characters or log out for a second.

 

The clear speed of mobs with double shot is way better to make up for the 20% damage loss from the boss. Often boss fights don't really last very long to so that's my stance on it. However in pvp I always use diffusion cannon.

 

As you can see in the video, diffusion cannon killed the boss in slightly over 2 seconds, partly because pythanous decided to run away from that monstrous diffusion canon. While double shot killed it in 2 seconds.

 

In summary you cleared the room 15 seconds faster with double shot, while the difference of kill speed of the boss was within a second range.

Edited by Agitodesu, 20 January 2016 - 05:38 AM.

[bigmacxx]

Thanks for the reply. May I know which combination is best for damage (crit dmg, crit rate) with moderate attack speed? Lv 5x to 6x

[bigmacxx]

And I decided to play for PVE only with my invorker and trying to solo elga next time. So I need suggestion on the item build

[Agitodesu]

The combination you just mentioned are stackable, without much conflict.

 

Weapon:CD,CR  (Soulcraft)

Accessories :CD, CR (Soulcraft)

Backpack: CD,CR (Soulcraft)

 

Attack speed usually comes from IM accessories.

 

[bigmacxx]

The combination you just mentioned are stackable, without much conflict.

Weapon:CD,CR (Soulcraft)
Accessories :CD, CR (Soulcraft)
Backpack: CD,CR (Soulcraft)

Attack speed usually comes from IM accessories.

Thanks! Will start farming those IM

[Agitodesu]

Build would look something like this.

 

 

2 Solar Carachas/Cerberus rings (super duper mega ultra op expensive)

Wisdom belt (gives Matk)

Kazekura necklace or movement speed necklace

Hero Bone Dragon earring (13% atk spd)

Hero POS weapon (Matk 585 special option at least)

Hero POS Cape (CD,CR special options at least)

Hero POS Helmet
Hero POS Top

Hero POS Bottom
Hero POS Shoulders
Hero POS Shoes (Gives 18.2% atk spd)
Hero Secmathian Gloves (gives 15% atk spd)
Burlune's banana bracelet (5% atk spd)

Wind walker hero (Reach level 80 medal)

 

Best unity rose
Best unity Top
Best unity Bottom

Best unity Shoulder

Best unity gloves

Best unity Shoes

Froggy cat hat
Purple wizard wings

2x Community appreciation rings or Dragon fellowship ring + Hero Slow heal ring
Trip ticket balloon or Bat balloon
New Origin bracelet
New Origin belt

Diffusion cannon Necklace
Spark rock or striking Earring (whatever you prefer)

Hookah's magic staff
 

 

 

 

Edited by Agitodesu, 20 January 2016 - 06:20 AM.

[Coolsam]

Fair warning for Elga solo on Invoker: Bring repair hammers for your PoS weapon.

Your weapon will lose tons of durability running the full dungeon and the bossfight.

[Agitodesu]

I also advise you to option expand your weapon and IM weapon in the future once you get set. Getting 600% critical damage will be a challenge, but those option expanders will allow you to hit that cap much faster than if you didn't.

Edited by Agitodesu, 20 January 2016 - 05:21 PM.

[bigmacxx]

Thanks, anyway is it possible to get the second dragon fellowship ring?

[Agitodesu]

No, your best bet is to use a slow heal ring. (Hero or rare)

[bigmacxx]

If I decided to cap at lv 60, which +20 weapon is worth to buy with and is not soul bound? Need some opinion thx

[Agitodesu]

I don't think a good one exists, except maybe a heirloom arka staff or maybe a superior valkrie staff... The best ones are usually soul bojnd like bone dragon or elemental weapon(pvp)

[bigmacxx]

I don't think a good one exists, except maybe a heirloom arka staff or maybe a superior valkrie staff... The best ones are usually soul bojnd like bone dragon or elemental weapon(pvp)

Thanks for ur opinion. I guess I'll just save gold for bone weapon