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[6929150526010024090]

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

Hi, I have just found an issue about the card set effect. Since I am not sure how is the card effect operating.

 

In my opinion, for example, let the character all stat = 0, use the a card (+1STR)x2, use the other card (+1AGI)x2, use those card can activate a set effect(+1INT, +1VIT)x2.

So the answer should be: +2STR, +2AGI, +2INT, +0WIS, +2VIT.

This is what i am thinking about.

 

However, I did an experiment to confirm and I also checked again today, getting the same result as below:

I used Rodafrog x2, and Bigeyes x2, to test about will the set effect work on 2 pair of the same card.

In this experiment, I only assume that the card effect can stack up.

 

First, I put the card in order like: RodaFrog, Bigeyes, RodaFrog, Bigeyes.

 

Experiment 1, I put the first pair of Rodafrog, Bigeyes:

　　Basic　　RodaFrog　　Bigeyes　　　Bonus　　　Total

Str　3123　　　　4　　　　　　0　　　　　0　　　　 3127

Agi　908　　　　  4　　　　　　4　　　　　1　　　　917

Int　1001　　　　0　　　　　　 4　　　　　0　　　　1005

Wis　704　　　　1　　　　　　 2　　　　　0　　　　707

Vit　2933　　　　0　　　　　　 3　　　　　2　　　　2938

 

Here, I add up the 2nd pairs of Rodafrog, Bigeyes with the previous result:

　　Basic　　　Rodafrog　　Total(Result)　　　Bigeyes　　　Total　　　Bonus　　　Total(Result)

Str　3127　　　　4　　　　　3131(3132)　　　　0　　　　　 3131　　　　0　　　　 3131(3132)

Agi　917　　　　  4　　　　　921(921)　　　　　4　　　　　 925　　　　 1　　　　　926(926)

Int　1005　　　　0　　　　　1005(1005)　　　　 4　　　　　1009　　　　0　　　　 1009(1010)

Wis　707　　　　1　　　　　708(708)　　　　　 2　　　　　 710　　　　 0　　　　　710(710)

Vit　2938　　　　0　　　　　2938(2938)　　　　3　　　　　 2941　　　　2　　　　 2943(2941)

 

Second, I changed the card order like: Rodafrog, Rodafrog, Bigeyes. Bigeyes.

 

Experiment 2:

　　Basic　　　Rodafrog　　　Total　　　Rodafrog　　　Total(Result)

Str　3123　　　　4　　　　　  3127　　　　 4　　　　　3131(3132)

Agi　908　　　　 4　　　　　   912　　　　  4　　　　　916(916)

Int　1001　　　　0　　　　　  1001　　　　 0　　　　　1001(1001)

Wis　704　　　　1　　　　　　705　　　　 1　　　　　706(706)

Vit　2933　　　　0　　　　　  2933　　　　 0　　　　　2933(2933)

 

Hence, I will add the Bigeyes to create the card effect now(Amounts are taken by above.):

　Total Stat(Result)　　　Bigeyes　　　Total　　　Bonus　　　Total(Result)　　　Bigeyes　　　 Total　　　Bonus　　　Total(Result)

Str　　3131(3132)　　　　　0　　　　  3131　　　　0　　　　 3131(3132)　　　　　0　　　　　3131　　　　0　　　　3131(3132)

Agi　　916(916)　　　　　　4　　　　　920　　　　1　　　　 921(921)　　　　　　 4　　　　　925　　　　  1　　　　926(927)

Int　　1001(1001)　　　　　 4　　　　 1005　　　　0　　　　  1005(1005)　　　　　4　　　　　1009　　　　0　　　　1009(1010)

Wis　　706(706)　　　　　　2　　　　 708　　　　 0　　　　  708(708)　　　　　　 2　　　　　710　　　　 ０　　　　710(710)

Vit　　2933(2933)　　　　　 3　　　　 2936　　　　2　　　　  2938(2938)　　　　　3　　　　　2941　　　　2　　　　2943(2944)

 

Experiment 1:

The total stat should be:

+3131Str, +926Int, +1009Int, +710Wis, +2943Vit

But refer to the result is:

+3132Str, +926Agi, +1010Int, +710Wis, +2941Vit

 

Experiment 2:

The total stat should be same as experiment because I was using the same card.

But refer to the result is:

+3132Str, +927Agi, +1010Int, +710Wis, +2944Vit

 

I am not sure there is any reverse thinking utilized or I did wrong reading of the set effect number that make the wrong calculation.

But according to the result, I think it is not a matter I did wrong or watever, there are impossible to get 2 different result with same card I think.

But I hope I can get reply back even remind me if I am wrong.

 

In same case, that make me want to ask about, will the giant forest red and white bug card do have the same issue.

What my experiment about is the card set with 2lines effect, that cause the issue.

However, red and white bug card only 1 line set effect(+250Vit), so will it be the same like the test above?

Hope my question will be solved. Thank you.

 

P.S. I will insert the pictures later. Sorry about that.

 

Your sincerely,

RO2 player

[nelsky27]

Hope a GM reply to this

[6929150526010024090]

But when i try again now, the result comes different.

 

When I point the mouse to STAT in personal information. For example: STR information is shown STR(1000'1+999'). If the '1' is impacting, why is the STAT only impacted some but not all?

 

Let's put it simple, talk about 1set effect first:

http://imgur.com/Cf3b7TJ

 

http://imgur.com/pURBZPV

The Stat I selected here, is a wrong add from the cards.

 

Please solve my confusion in here first, after that maybe i could bing out the second question, thank you.

Edited by 6929150526010024090, 29 January 2016 - 05:37 PM.

[Njoror]

Hey,

 

I think I talked to you in game.

 

I'll be looking into this, testing it, and relaying to Gravity for a resolution!

[flukeSG2]

But when i try again now, the result comes different.

 

When I point the mouse to STAT in personal information. For example: STR information is shown STR(1000'1+999'). If the '1' is impacting, why is the STAT only impacted some but not all?

 

Let's put it simple, talk about 1set effect first:

http://imgur.com/Cf3b7TJ

 

http://imgur.com/pURBZPV

The Stat I selected here, is a wrong add from the cards.

 

Please solve my confusion in here first, after that maybe i could bing out the second question, thank you.

 

You are getting a "bonus" stat into any stat you apply yours into.  So for example, if you put a little of your bonus stats into each there, they would all have the "1+xxx" next to it.

 

Do you happen to be wearing a VIP in those images?

[6929150526010024090]

Reply #5,

Ty mate, I am glad that someone try to answer me. I was using VIP.

 

Acccording to your comment, you mean if i put the which is sum up in particular stat >

like STR, AGI, INT, 3stats, those stat will be given more bonus. I can realise the since not even in card, but also in rune, costume...

 

However, the picture in #3

if you read it again, my STR does not have any bonus, just add as 4

so, is it meant for those stat in the card which must be added bonus? or depend on some factors?

 

Sorry for too many questions, but if i am wrong, please fix me up. But I will keep asking until my mind is cleared.

 

Thank you

Edited by 6929150526010024090, 12 February 2016 - 03:38 PM.

[Vau]

Any flat % will change your stats accordingly. That means, VIP, gear % set effect, Accessory % set effect, Norn Blessing, Ranking buffs (Collector etc.), class buffs. To test 2x set effects properly, you need to test it out without any of those % modifiers.

To answer your question. Yes, 2x set effects of Giant forest bug cards will grant 740 VIT in total without any % VIT modifiers.

 

 

Edit: 740*

Edited by Vau, 12 February 2016 - 11:08 PM.

[6929150526010024090]

Reply #7,

Thank you for reminding. I was using VIP.

From now we are discussing should be a prelude to my main question.

 

I refer to the comment, this time I used only a character without anything.

I get this result:

 

First order of equipping the card

http://imgur.com/JyP7Rlv

 

Second order of equipping the card

http://imgur.com/mhoAf4Y

 

I can not think of any reason why I use the same card, but only change the card position, it gives 2 different result.

 

Let's talk about the first order I put, as the opinions I have asked, for those who said the card effect can be repeated, I believe them. But the suspicion here is, the AGI and VIT value are incorrect. To be clarified, this time the character was without any buff.

 

Moreover, second time I was using same card, but changed card position. It supposed to be same as previous result. But it gets changed.

 

Actually the detail I have typed in #1 as well as the main course of the topic. All I typed only is my research and opinion, have not been proved.

 

I wish someone can reply again and solve my problem.

 

P.S.

Please solve the problem as well (Sometime when equipping the card, it won't show in personal information as the picture below)

http://imgur.com/d9zb5sq

 

Thank you

Edited by 6929150526010024090, 13 February 2016 - 01:03 AM.

[Vau]

I want to believe that Gravity didn't want players to stack 2x card set effects on a single character, but guess what, it's bugged. As shown on your second screenshot, and i also did test it myself too, the 2x set effect just applies when you pair the same cards.

 

Yes, the positional bug exists, but in this case, in our favor. If you ask Njoror or Gravity to fix it, they will probably just erase the second set effect, (Cause they are stupid)

 

And yes, that's another bug, where sometimes and somehow cards are shown as "hidden" or plainly doesn't show their names. Blame Gravity.co

[6929150526010024090]

Reply #9,

 

I am not sure for those order to equip the card, are they given 2 effect, since phenomenon seems like they are given 2 effect as well but incorrect only.

 

I did not mean I want to blame someone or who take the fault. And I can understand,

If they do not erase the second effect, it might mean `wonderland monster card' the value is higher than `wonderland boss card' since if we see the game market, the white bug card value almost equal to those boss card.

I believe boss card value should be higher than monster card because in 1 game has only 1 exact boss, but monster there are few of them.

 

If RO2 removed second effect, it would be an ideal way for them, but for some player like me, I can just say bad luck. But I had pm Njoror, I wish it was true. For now, I am still waiting for his result and reply.

 

If possible, can I make the comment here to suggest something as well? OFF TOPIC:

(In Jehoon, cls(attack)&cls(defence) should be same seal for exchanging now since cls(attack) has changed from 5% to 3%, just ask)

 

Thank you