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#1 b4bads

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 04:59 AM

I hate to create a topic over this one question but I can't find any answer on the internet.

 

So during WoE 1 & 2, I tend to miss my manual attacks to some players.

 

They are not on pneuma, no millennium shield, not perfect dodge as well because other's melee attack can hit them.

 

So what causes my bow damage to 100% miss? Some say its a soul link.

 

As far as I can remember, most of them are shadow chasers.


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#2 Ashuckel

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 05:21 AM

Too low dmg, your are not doing even 1 to them

Or if you are sure your damage is not that miserable, its Kaupe then, 100% chance to avoid the next hit.

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 07:55 AM

shadow chaser got high flee you need to higher your HIT rate in order to hit them 


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:01 AM

lol


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#5 b4bads

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:28 AM

Flee is not an issue because my hit is very high as a Ranger. Plus there is a flee reduction on WOE.

 

I also use an over upgraded bow, so high def is not an issue. I was able to hit players with Muscle Fool proc that adds 1000 def.

 

If its Kaupe, am I supposed to miss all of my arrows? or just the initial hit?


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:35 AM

Just the initial hit. Unless someone is spamming kaupe so fast on that character that you can't hit it, which is not possible i guess at 193 aspd and with 7 attack per second. You are probably not doing enough damage cause they are on high demi-human reductions and using GT Revit as well.


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#7 Ashuckel

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:48 AM

As o said, if the damage is bellow 1, the game rounds down to 0, resulting in miss.
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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:53 AM

So my 509 atk is not enough?


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Posted 21 January 2016 - 09:08 AM

Not the attack value, the damage amount.

Ppl on woe stack a lot of demi human reduction, elemental reduction, ranged reduction, and some def wich is inevitable. Also, ranged autoattack suffer 25% penalty in damage there. After that theres still the soft def and maybe a GT revit.
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Posted 21 January 2016 - 09:27 AM

Let say you have a 3k autoattack (of neutral property) outside woe, on a target with no reduction at all.

But now you are inside a woe castle, and your target is a well geared shadow chaser, that has in total:

250 def (around 35% physical reduction)
83% demi human reduction(full woe set + pet)
30% ranged reduction (woe suits and noxious)
23% neutral reduction(noxious and +12 immune shield)
120 vit, wich gives him 155 soft def.

25% woe ranged auto penalty

3000 x 0.65 x 0.17 x 0.7 x 0.77 x 0.75 = 134

134 - 155 = Miss :v
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Posted 21 January 2016 - 10:02 AM

Quit WoE and come back when you have basic WoE gears ie. MVPs and OP gears. Life is harsh :(
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Posted 21 January 2016 - 11:52 AM

Quit WoE and come back when you have basic WoE gears 

 

too harsh 

 

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:19 PM

Let say you have a 3k autoattack (of neutral property) outside woe, on a target with no reduction at all.

But now you are inside a woe castle, and your target is a well geared shadow chaser, that has in total:

250 def (around 35% physical reduction)
83% demi human reduction(full woe set + pet)
30% ranged reduction (woe suits and noxious)
23% neutral reduction(noxious and +12 immune shield)
120 vit, wich gives him 155 soft def.

25% woe ranged auto penalty

3000 x 0.65 x 0.17 x 0.7 x 0.77 x 0.75 = 134

134 - 155 = Miss :v

 

Thanks. It explained alot of the redux.

 

I'll switch back to +11BXB 2AS instead of +9BXB with status cards. I'll just use status arrows.

 

Any idea if that is good enough?

 

 

EDIT:

For a masq build SC, what would be the best status arrow to use? the one that will most likely to inflict to them.

 

Silence, curse, blind etc...


Edited by b4bads, 21 January 2016 - 08:22 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2016 - 08:35 PM

Maybe armor element? You are using silver arrow and they use angeling armor? IDK. try again


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Posted 22 January 2016 - 07:14 AM

This is why I haven't WoEd since woe set. There aren't many rangers that woe nowadays.. Maybe try the bow that drains people SP make them spam their supplies :P
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Posted 22 January 2016 - 08:43 AM

Maybe armor element? You are using silver arrow and they use angeling armor? IDK. try again

 

i'm using status arrow with wind converter.

 

 

This is why I haven't WoEd since woe set. There aren't many rangers that woe nowadays.. Maybe try the bow that drains people SP make them spam their supplies :P

 

IKR. Since AS can barely kill this time, all I do is just to inflict foes with negative status and fiberlock with Creeper. But when Lucky Day procs, I can kill them with just manual attacks.

 

 

Edit:

Do you guys think this may actually help improve their def?

http://irowiki.org/wiki/NPC_STONESKIN

http://db.irowiki.or...item-info/2531/

 

Edited by b4bads, 22 January 2016 - 08:54 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 11:01 AM

No one uses that. Its just horrible.
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Posted 22 January 2016 - 11:33 PM

I am the shadow chaser and I will not tell you what bow to use.

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 01:10 AM

Im not the shadow chaser but i can give you 1 tip: AS
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Posted 25 January 2016 - 01:52 AM

Out-of-topic. May I know what is this status icon? TIA

 

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