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[AMNBrasil]

Has a guide here, but it's more for MVP, I would build only one to PVM.

[kiddo313]

The guide is for PVM, comes even with recommendations on where to level...

[RaohSung]

What exactly do you need? A 100 > 175 Guide on where to level, Skills, Status allocation and Equipment proposals?

[AMNBrasil]

What exactly do you need? A 100 > 175 Guide on where to level, Skills, Status allocation and Equipment proposals?

Stats and skills primarily.

[RaohSung]

Pure Mado AC Build

~ Suggested Stats (175) ~

STR: 100 - 110
AGI: 40 - 60
VIT: 92+
INT: 100 - 105
DEX: 120
LUK: 1+


STR should be optimal for weight limit and sATK. If you do not use or do not plan to use STR Gloves [1], I would not invest in 110 STR (If you do have RWC Rings, Bako Tats, Ring of Mael. to name a few). Points are better spend then in AGI or VIT.
AGI is always good for smoother Mado control, Animation and ASPD for Knuckle Boost delay. Maybe even HSCR/CartRevo if you would like to have some action outside of the Mado.
VIT optimal for Stun immunity. Invest more if you do not need 110 STR.
INT to get the most of your variable cast time reduction, SP, SP rec. items effectiveness, soft MDEF and SP for Suicide Destruction damage. I dont think over 105 INT is ever necessary in PVM set ups.
DEX 120. Get most of your var. Cast reduction and Temporal Dex Boots.
LUK if you have some spare points... why not? But I think spare points are better used in AGI or in VIT.

 

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~ Suggested Skills ~

Primary:
Cooldown 1
Arms Cannon 2-3
Knuckle Boost 5
Repair 5
Remodel Mainframe 4
Madogear License 5
Elemental Shift 1-4 (I would take all Levels)
Neutral Barrier 3

Magnetic Field (Any level.... I would absolutly skill this! Its amazing!)
Infrared Scan 1
Accelaration 1 or 2
Front and Backslide (or just Frontslide)
+ all Pre Reqs like SD 2 etc. rest in Axe Mastery

Secondary:
Suicide Destruc. 3 (2 is pre req anyway so I would let it on 2 or if you would like to destruct yourself before HSCR action)
Ice Launcher 3 (Useful in Bio3 and Bio4 with a Quadruple Marina Mace)
Analyze (The reduction is not that great if used in action but in theory it looks great. Usefull for ATK/MATK Skills like Grand Cross, Gen. Ray, Acid Bomb, Soul Destroyer to name a few)

 

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ASPD Hybrid

 

~ Suggested Stats ~

STR: 90 - 120  (If want to Switch to STR Boots)
AGI: 81-90
VIT: 95 - 100
INT: 50 - 70
DEX: 100 or 120 (if want to switch to DEX Boots)
LUK: 1+

 

STR & DEX: I would go 120 on Both. So you can always switch between High Speed, Max Damage CT/CR (outside the Mado) and Vulcan Arms/ Knuckle Boost (Inside the Mado).
AGI depending on your other AGI and ASPD gears to get 188 - 190 with Berserk Potion and Adrenaline Rush (outside of Mado).
VIT should be around 100.
INT enough to spam your skills (Knuckle Boost do have 1 Sec Var. Cast time) and some soft MDEF.
LUK if you have something so spare.

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~ Suggested Skills ~

All Smith Self buffs (Maximum Power Thrust, Weap. Perfection etc.)
Cart Termination / High Speed Cart Ram 10
Cart Revolution (Flee Bypassing AoE for AGI UP MVPs)
Skin Tempering 5
Axe Mastery 10
Ore Discovery (Free Gold, Ori, Elus while Killing Monster hordes? Hell yea!)
Remodel Mainframe 4
Mado Gear License 5
Lava Flow 3-5
Axe Tornado 5
Knuckle Boost 5
Vulcan Arm 3

Cool Down 1
Repair 4-5

 

Secondary:

Power Swing 5 (Most effective with Kiel Cards and other Delay reduce gear)
Elemental Shift (Works even after blowing up or getting out of the Mado Gear)
Front and Backslide
Ice Launcher 3 (Useful for Bio3/4)

Arm Cannon 2
Flame Launcher (Good to pair with VA for more HP/SP Leech from gears)

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A great high speed and high damage build. You can use and abuse 13 Cell ranged 3x3 AOE Vulcan Arms for Leveling and even MVPing paired with Knuckle Boost. Or going Berserk Mode with your Axes outside the Mado. You actually do not need 120 DEX, if you just want to stay on STR boots but I like to vary it. Get some LUK or INT if not taking 120 DEX. Vulcan Arms... This skill aint that crap as you might think. Full ASPD dependent and greatly buffed by Ranged +% modifiers. It is like a Ranged version of Bowling Bash and great to pair with HP/SP leech gears. I need fewer supplies then on an pure AC Damage Mado gear.

 

 

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If you have 2 Kiel Cards, do not bother with the Second Build because you can spam AC and laugh about Dispells. I would Skill Power Swing if you do for some Axe action

[seaechiowai]

Excellent tips Raoh, always impressed by footages of your mechs man. Let me throw in my 2 cents.

 

There's two ways of doing mechs. Cheap and mediocre AGI-VIT-STR Knuckle Boost/Axe Tornado build, or expensive but high DPS STR-DEX-VIT Arm Cannon. Most everyone will claim the latter will be better, and near endgame they are because your sole job becomes to kill Randel, but there's a few footnote about them. Let me sell you on Knuckle Boost build.

• Against a single non-holy or non-shadow mob which will be the majority of your foes, your DPS is about the same as Arm Cannon build, but you're using the fraction of SP, with no fuel and ammo
• Arm Cannon's double endow perk has expiration date to it, it's already nerfed in KRO and we iRO will face that eventually.
• Axe Tornado has upcoming buff to it.
• You get to have far more space on your cart. This will let you loot so much more compared to pure AC guys PLUS you have more room for potting.
• You are not a sitting duck without your robot.
• Upkeep is about 1/10th of that of Arm Cannon or pure cartram Madomech. Knuckle Boost mechs don't even spend 1 mil a day even with carefree use of flywings and food. This makes MVPing more attractive because you don't lose any money hunting anything.
• Stunlocking mob is fun holy crap
• This compliments mastersmith's build, and transition to 3rd is smooth. Arm Cannon guys may have to be hanging out in Low TI until as late as job 20! Dying to keep your base level in check is depressing. There is no reset required unlike Arm Cannon guys. Resetting is not cheap for level 99!

[AMNBrasil]

Thank you guys, I'm impressed with the knowledge of the class that you have. Well I'll try to AC build, even being poor.

[fuyukikun]

have u seen irowiki?

[AMNBrasil]

have u seen irowiki?

Yes, I read; but was very vague guides; so I asked here for more elaborate responses.

[Ashuckel]

I asked here for spoofeeding.

Corrected

[tubers]

 

Excellent tips Raoh, always impressed by footages of your mechs man. Let me throw in my 2 cents.

 

There's two ways of doing mechs. Cheap and mediocre AGI-VIT-STR Knuckle Boost/Axe Tornado build, or expensive but high DPS STR-DEX-VIT Arm Cannon. Most everyone will claim the latter will be better, and near endgame they are because your sole job becomes to kill Randel, but there's a few footnote about them. Let me sell you on Knuckle Boost build.

• Against a single non-holy or non-shadow mob which will be the majority of your foes, your DPS is about the same as Arm Cannon build, but you're using the fraction of SP, with no fuel and ammo
• Arm Cannon's double endow perk has expiration date to it, it's already nerfed in KRO and we iRO will face that eventually.
• Axe Tornado has upcoming buff to it.
• You get to have far more space on your cart. This will let you loot so much more compared to pure AC guys PLUS you have more room for potting.
• You are not a sitting duck without your robot.
• Upkeep is about 1/10th of that of Arm Cannon or pure cartram Madomech. Knuckle Boost mechs don't even spend 1 mil a day even with carefree use of flywings and food. This makes MVPing more attractive because you don't lose any money hunting anything.
• Stunlocking mob is fun holy crap
• This compliments mastersmith's build, and transition to 3rd is smooth. Arm Cannon guys may have to be hanging out in Low TI until as late as job 20! Dying to keep your base level in check is depressing. There is no reset required unlike Arm Cannon guys. Resetting is not cheap for level 99!

 

 

Thanks!

 

Do you have a Skill Build Progression suggestion for both Mastersmith and Mech?

[fuyukikun]

mech: stay at low TI level 99 using axe tornado and lava flow. once you already have enough points to get arm cannon level 2, mado license level 5, remodel mainframe level 4, cooldown, and knuckle boost level 5. do a free skill reset on izlude to get those skills. now you can Mado.
then you can pump more skills to neutral barrier for ranged protection, elemental shift if you want to use good armor but non elemental, then infrared scan to detect hidden enemies, suicidal destruction to WOE and MVP (i can do 700k dmg to nonghost MVP, good to reduce competition). front slide to walk faster or to avoid lethal condition like mobbed. acceleration for fast walking (level 1 is enough), magnetic field as enemy movement disabler.

[PervySageMarty]

Excellent advice as always Roah