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[Turpi]

Hey ho!

I would suggest to release the Demolition content here.

We all know that many cards got duped here, which are still at the game and makes the most people nearly immortal.

Through this many game modes like BSQ and EW became even more broken. Its like to beat an <removed> member you need an <removed> member, since nearly everyone of those got maxed element cards.

The question how they obtained that cards and how many of those cards are still at some players vaults is another one.

Releasing the Demolition weaps and accessory would solve some problems.

Firstly player who didnt took advantage of ingame bugs to dupe 6* cards or to abuse the basic element bug would be able to take part again in BSQ and EW since Demolition Weaps and more, would be farmable for everyone. People with Demo Weaps would be able then to deal serious dmg to that 35kresi tanks.

Also the past duper cant take much advantage of this new content coz you guys fixed duping (if thats even 100% possible) here and the client is well protected from any 3rd party software today.

Think about it. Demolition would create more balance than inbalance here in my opinion. Also alot new or former player would join here to test these new weaps.

Edited by VModChimichanga, 06 April 2016 - 01:57 PM.

[Popcorn]

Hello,

 

like you know we are in the development process and there will be for sure changes to the element system in the future.

At the time being the are no concrete plans about it, but since we will balance out that stuff we don't want to have another unbalanced system added to the game yet.

 

I hope you understand.

 

 

[OokamiNeko]

I'd break it down to you about some things, but, you know.

 

Demolition available without a resistance was already asking to be beaten with a stick by the whole community, and making it more available than it already is won't solve anything as far as I know.  You'd have more trouble surviving anything in low-to-middle tier Battlesquare, make other element cards obsolete and attack-speed-reliant classes even higher above the rest. I don't think it's a good idea at all ; the removal of this element, or the addition of a number of attack and resist cards for it (to make it a "normal" element) would be a better idea in my opinion.

 

Having something as freaking rare as it is insanely powerful usually is extremely bad for the whole community.

[Turpi]

I'd break it down to you about some things, but, you know.

 

Demolition available without a resistance was already asking to be beaten with a stick by the whole community, and making it more available than it already is won't solve anything as far as I know.  You'd have more trouble surviving anything in low-to-middle tier Battlesquare, make other element cards obsolete and attack-speed-reliant classes even higher above the rest. I don't think it's a good idea at all ; the removal of this element, or the addition of a number of attack and resist cards for it (to make it a "normal" element) would be a better idea in my opinion.

 

Having something as freaking rare as it is insanely powerful usually is extremely bad for the whole community.

 

Well Demolition Weaps wouldnt give the stacked people more advantage coz they got already 3 6* atk cards and kill every normal player with an incredible speed. It would give the weaker people an advantage coz they would be able to deal some dmg.

 

And Element Weaps wouldnt be freaking rare.. You get 1 Demo weap in exchange for an Ice+Nature+Fire+Dark BDL weap which would make them totally farmable.

 

Pros of Demo weaps would be:

 

- they are obtainable and farmable for everyone not like the current 6* cards. Which means you farm bloodies and ele dungeon and   dont buy mostly duped cards from other player.

 

- duo to the Demolition Element stacked player become killable.

 

- wont weaken the lower player since it doesnt make any difference if ur opponent got 3 6* cards or demo, they will cut through       your resist anyways.

 

- you wont need a "totally" new ele system which doesnt mean that you dont have to weaken elements itself.

 

- stacked resistance player still gain advantage from their resist against normal elemental dmg

 

- lv 40 element weaps would bring up the possibility to deal already some dmg against stacked people without having farmed 4 elga   weaps

 

 

 

Cons:

 

- Its a gamechange and you dont know how things are going~

 

 

 

Tbh I dont see any other way beside removing element dmg completey from PvP which would be great tho but quite unfair for those who put really much effort in farming those cards. 

 

Well you could create an element resistance/ atk cap which makes like everything over 12k ele resi useless like evade or crit rate.. Thats not such a bad idea i think

[Starkespada1]

Would love if element were to be removed completely from pvp, but i also see how Pure demo weapons could benefit the lesser stacked players giving them free damage essentially.

 

 

 

 

[Turpi]

Hello,

 

like you know we are in the development process and there will be for sure changes to the element system in the future.

At the time being the are no concrete plans about it, but since we will balance out that stuff we don't want to have another unbalanced system added to the game yet.

 

I hope you understand.

 

Im glad to hear that from you. Hope you get a fast balance soon which makes stacked people killable again, an ele resi and atk cap might be a fast and temporarily solution. Demo weaps would bring a bigger change with it but i think they would also balance the game as long you only release the Weaps and the Accessory.

[StormHaven]

Im still more towards removing elements from pvp, like it was orignally intended.

[flubsy]

I prefer no elements and a rework of stat limits.  Like evade/aim, making them viable again, along with other things.

[falcoford]

Let weapons get to +25 also if they remove elements.

[Zackx23]

Instead of releasing 6* demolition cards I'd thing it would be a bit more balancing to make it easier obtainable to get 6* cards right now. One way to increase the rate of getting them would be to include creating 5* and 6* into the exchange socket card system. Right now it's only possible to create 4* and that's it. If 5* and 6* were craftable as well the overall use of farming cards and exchanging them to higher cards would increase. 

 

Besides it's definetly "easier" to obtain than your suggestion to like "farm" 4 different ele elga weapons to exchange them to 1 demolition weapon because this is not even near casual user friendly

[Precrush]

No to demolition weapons, we don't need more op stuff to mess up the balancing process of elements.

 

No to removing elements from pvp completely, they just need to have enough of a small effect there that you don't necessarily need them. It just adds anther layer of gear, which helps sell IM, and doesn't take anything away from those who got their cards legitimately. 

 

No to demolition resist, since if demolition atk had a small enough impact like I said above, the rarity of these cards would turn around to be a good thing.

 

Yes for cards being able to be exchanged up to 6*, it'd still be very hard to get them. Farming 6*s would actually become a reasonable thing to do, since you'd know you are moving toward that goal almost every run.

[Turpi]

Well, no1 was talking about Demolition sockets.. :/

[Precrush]

 or the addition of a number of attack and resist cards for it.

^^

[Elijazz]

I remember popcorn said that the demolition is not intended in game so I doubt they will release it plus an element with no resist is another problem in game. Better change or rework the elemental damage. I like how they focus on how to stop the cheating in game and I hope you continue to trace on how it works and completely eliminate it. 

[Precrush]

I think it was originally intended and is implemented fully. I think Popcorn was just misinformed at that time. You can kinda see a hint of that in that topic if you compare his initial reaction and the replies after that. Whether the current team wants it in the game is a different question though.

[Popcorn]

Even though I repeat myself:

 

 

Hello,

 

like you know we are in the development process and there will be for sure changes to the element system in the future.

At the time being the are no concrete plans about it, but since we will balance out that stuff we don't want to have another unbalanced system added to the game yet.

 

I hope you understand.

 

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