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#1 zezelovers

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 05:39 PM

I was doing hazy about 70++ right now and there is no chance to get a single OCA yet (get 48 OPB).

That's why I think something wrong. I just randomly ask player that doing Hazy and they said they just got OPB.

I hope campitor can check it if it's bug or just ridiculous unlucky RNG.

 

Because for 50% drop rate, it's almost stupid that it didn't drop any OCA yet (even a single OCA).

 

*Happen 2 days ago, before that it just normal (still at least got OCA after 6 run - the worst one).


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#2 HeresNatan

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Posted 03 May 2016 - 10:55 AM

Same with me...
I made some hazy runs(6) and got opb... só i desist
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Posted 03 May 2016 - 11:04 AM

yea bro i ever get 5 day without oca with 6char it normal hazy dragon just got tired


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Posted 03 May 2016 - 03:50 PM

Will get this looked into.


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#5 leiand

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Posted 03 May 2016 - 06:12 PM

Like no one knos who things works..

Its WP we are talkin bout, if you send a ticket for their bots thats farming to supply the WoE system. yr account will be compromised.

cause according to

http://www.divine-pr...r/1087/orc-hero

eblem is like high, and double for vip then gum and no drop.

Suspected account is tampered with.

Daily quen, pics shown in tickets <> the supervisor asked how am i failing the quest when i came to them asking whats wrong with it.

*if you all have a problem with me calling out a non- ingame name with no ticket number edit and let me kno exactly why , thanks*

But its a racial thing inside there.

Lost that account complaining, cause who wants a bug account?!?

Then came and lost a Dark Lord card, ticketed and never replaced, why?!? they got their ppl.

Who to replace items. who to give a good rate and who not to be scolded.

 Here's a lil vid of whne i had my last convo with them.

 

Yea a failing shadow phen set.?

Its a racial thing up dey.

You just hold ya hand, and play like i do. be GM hacked or dont play.

 

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 01:44 PM

After checking, the CM has concluded there is no bug with the drops. Take a note, Wandering purple dragon OCA drop rate has been reduced some time ago due to abuse.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 01:51 PM

so what's the actual rate now? also who the hell abuses wandering purple dragon? do they clear hazy in 3 minutes instead of 5?
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Posted 04 May 2016 - 06:30 PM

After checking, the CM has concluded there is no bug with the drops. Take a note, Wandering purple dragon OCA drop rate has been reduced some time ago due to abuse.

abuse u mean cause by too many ppl doing it that all ppl now only do hazy and ro not to do anythink, then next will be nerf drop rate ogh


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:21 PM

lmfao, hazy got nerfed due to abuse,


Edited by Kuroyukiii, 04 May 2016 - 08:22 PM.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:33 PM

Well thanks, People that "abuse" stuff will go abuse something else, people that don't, will have less opportunities to make z.

 

What about you BAN people that abuse stuff instead of changing the game?

 

Unbelievable.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:09 AM

Well thanks, People that "abuse" stuff will go abuse something else, people that don't, will have less opportunities to make z.

 

What about you BAN people that abuse stuff instead of changing the game?

 

Unbelievable.

i wish i knowfaster  how to abuse like, how ppl know dieter bug longggggg time ago(that have been fixed)


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 09:42 AM

how the hell does lowering the drop rate prevent abuse lmao, wtf. 

 

(we can't fix the abuse, we can only make the abuse less desirable. Oh, yea, and the entire instance itself less desirable)


Edited by Havenn, 05 May 2016 - 09:43 AM.

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#13 Campitor

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 09:55 AM

Please understand I was on the GM team at the time so my memory may be a little fuzzy. But if I recall correctly there were so many people creating instances to do hazy that it was destabilizing the server, because of the number of instances being created and destroyed.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:04 AM

get these weaksauce servers outta here


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:05 AM

that's not abuse. also in that case that means the rate was changed AGES ago. so people who have been running it regularly shouldn't have seen a drastic drop off regardless; the rate just isn't what is listed on the db?
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:07 AM

Please understand I was on the GM team at the time so my memory may be a little fuzzy. But if I recall correctly there were so many people creating instances to do hazy that it was destabilizing the server, because of the number of instances being created and destroyed.

 

How does that relate to drop rate?

Is the logic something like:

Problem -> Too much instances being opened and closed because Hazy is profitable due to OCAs

Action -> Nerf Drop Rate to discourage people from doing Hazy

Result -> Less people opening and closing instances because it's not worth doing anymore, server stabilization? lel

 

Would be nice if the droprate was disclosed. Having drop rate values changed and being kept secret overall and us having to rely on other sources of information is pretty ... unproductive. It's pretty unprofessional when said item is advertised by secondary fansites (only source the playerbase has) to have x drop rate, which can be unreliable because:

1. GMs decide to change rates

2. Difference in data from kRO and iRO


Edited by KamiKali, 05 May 2016 - 10:12 AM.

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#17 OniichanN

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:07 AM

I didn't really notice any difference to be honest. When was hazy "nerfed"? It feels the same as before tho I don't keep track of numbers anymore.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:12 AM

AFAIK, the change was done long time ago.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:12 AM

I didn't really notice any difference to be honest. When was hazy "nerfed"? It feels the same as before tho I don't keep track of numbers anymore.

Years ago.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:16 AM

can you let us know what the actual mvp award drop rates are so we can modify the iro db and put it to bed?
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:18 AM

So... either OP is having a string of really bad luck with RNG or I'm blessed with good RNG in hazy? :hmm:


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:30 AM

it's just a product of unrealistic expectations fueled by incorrect database rates.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 10:39 AM

what about doing a nightmare version of Hazy Forest? not so much people can do a nightmare version and put a long limit time on that... idk, but still are people who doing this like 400 times per day, so i dont think the nerf fix the problem.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 11:54 AM

it's just a product of unrealistic expectations fueled by incorrect database rates.

OCA 33%
OPB 50%

OPB 50%
 


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 11:57 AM

thanks camp, you da real mvp.
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