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#1 3025140119203620510

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:07 AM

There are many merchants out there who utilize bots to vend their store 24/7. This is because offline vending is unavailable and the issues of merchant getting disconnected while AFK. 

 

What are your thoughts on those bot venders? Should they be banned? 

Seems like everybody agree that offline vending should be made a feature. 
Ragial uses third party automated system to provide a feature that this game doesn't offer. As far as I know ragial is legitimate.

 

 

 


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#2 Ilindith

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:15 AM

People really need to stop using the "Ragial does it" argument.

 

The Ragial bots are accepted because they provide an overwhelmingly positive benifit to the whole community.

 

As far as bot vending, I personally would not care either way. It's mostly harmless in my opinion. But it does give an unfair advantage if automatic restocking happens, with the weight limit system.

 

An auction house system would be perfect, but will never happen.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:31 AM

The only thing I don't like are the vend bots that refresh ragial every 30 minutes and perma undercut by 1z for any of their listed items.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:59 AM

Just get a dedicated computer to host a dozen accounts and tell people it's a macro, not a bot. That's what the pros do.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:02 AM

as long as they dont undercut my price, I'm okay with them.

 

or worst, they take my favourite vend spot. Then I will get angry and undercut them even more :P


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:24 AM

By Ragial bots you mean that there's such feature in Ragial?


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:35 AM

By Ragial bots you mean that there's such feature in Ragial?

 

Ragial gathers it's data using bots. There is literally a bot running around Prontera and Payon checking all the shops on it's predefined route.


Edited by Valadez, 04 May 2016 - 09:35 AM.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:56 AM

My stance is against bots of any sort including afk vendors. Every time they dc in masses and auto reconnect together, it clogs up the character login server. This affects regular players from trying to log in again to play and has affected WoE before as well. If there is offline vending system, that'd be better.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:59 AM

as long as they dont undercut my price, I'm okay with them.

 

or worst, they take my favourite vend spot. Then I will get angry and undercut them even more :P

i LOL to this cause it happens lol


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:01 AM

My stance is against bots of any sort including afk vendors. Every time they dc in masses and auto reconnect together, it clogs up the character login server. This affects regular players from trying to log in again to play and has affected WoE before as well. If there is offline vending system, that'd be better.

 

Even against Ragial bot?


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:12 AM

Even against Ragial bot?

 

:u Well I guess except for Ragial bots. They contribute to the entire community not just personal gains. As far as I am aware, there's only 2 of them roaming. 1 in Payon, and the other around Prontera and Eden.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:31 AM

Ragial gathers it's data using bots. There is literally a bot running around Prontera and Payon checking all the shops on it's predefined route.

 

Didn't know. Very interesting. I always wondered how it was done, now I know. Thank you.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:33 AM

:u Well I guess except for Ragial bots. 

 

I totally understand the frustration though.  Bots are EVIL.  (except ragial bots)


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:58 AM

Say no to vend bots, so only vend bots benefit and dumb legit players stay dumb. I think I can relate this to my WoE experiences fighting cheaters/bots ie bot buffers hahaha


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:09 AM

Bots are EVIL.  (except ragial bots)

 

I believe that Ragial just proved that bots are NEUTRAL. They can be used for good ends, for bad end, and for neutral ends (like vend bots). Though it's true that the vast majority of cases they are not used for good. I think vend bots should be ok, though I never used them. And about all of these rants about overcut, I NEVER buy or sell stuff for those that undercut for a silly ammount, like 1z or 10z. I feel insulted by it, and I'd rather lose a little money than incentivate this practice, and these shops can and should be boycotted by everyone. If you want to sell or buy faster, giving a reasonable difference is to be expected.

 

My opinion is that the game should have an official feature that works like the @autotrade command of private servers. It would save a lot on my energy consumption every month. :(


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:12 AM

another bot thread. lol cant find anything else worth talking bout now huh


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:31 AM

another bot thread. lol cant find anything else worth talking bout now huh

 

It is the only thing the community can handle discussing. Apparently talking about anything else, no matter how positive, is unfathomable. 


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:35 AM

The only thing I don't like are the vend bots that refresh ragial every 30 minutes and perma undercut by 1z for any of their listed items.

i dont bot but i do practice that 1z undercut. COZ 249.999.999 ZENY KATHRYINE KEYRON CARD IS CHEAPER THAN 250.000.000Z KK CARD!!!
and i am still amazed my trick works, many people prefer to buy from me first even tho i vend on west pront (CS guild spot). so much work just to save 1z lol.
edit: wait, you talk about ragial bot? no problem also since it puts my shop on top of the list since i am 1z cheaper than everyone.

Edited by fuyukikun, 04 May 2016 - 11:37 AM.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:37 AM

i deliberately buy for 1z higher when i see that cause it's annoying as hell.
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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:40 AM

My stance is against bots of any sort including afk vendors. Every time they dc in masses and auto reconnect together, it clogs up the character login server. This affects regular players from trying to log in again to play and has affected WoE before as well. If there is offline vending system, that'd be better.

 

 

:u Well I guess except for Ragial bots. They contribute to the entire community not just personal gains. As far as I am aware, there's only 2 of them roaming. 1 in Payon, and the other around Prontera and Eden.


As long as they benefit you, bots are okay! The hypocrisy level with this one.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:54 AM

i deliberately buy for 1z higher when i see that cause it's annoying as hell.

you are one of the smart people out there  :D


Edited by fuyukikun, 04 May 2016 - 11:55 AM.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:55 AM

As long as they benefit you, bots are okay! The hypocrisy level with this one.


^bretty mad up in hurr

Edited by Necrohealiac, 04 May 2016 - 11:55 AM.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:59 AM

As long as they benefit you, bots are okay! The hypocrisy level with this one.

 

It doesn't just benefit me though. They benefit the entire community =/= benefit one person. :3 So no hypocrisy here.


Edited by WarlockFier, 04 May 2016 - 12:00 PM.

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 12:01 PM

As long as they benefit you, bots are okay! The hypocrisy level with this one.

 

Lmfao hahahahahah xD


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 12:02 PM

I think they're okay so long as they don't do anything or auto-reconnect.... Acting like a lightweight client

 

 

I don't vend so don't accuse me. I'm too impatient to learn to set up a bot. I think there should be an official lightweight vending client so I don't really care if people use a bot to vend, so long as it's literally not automated.


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