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[fuyukikun]

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what do you guys think about this weapon? especially for suras and battle ABs. do this weapon able to replace some of your 'default' weapon?

Edited by fuyukikun, 13 May 2016 - 05:51 AM.

[Kadelia]

isn't it just an upgraded carga?

[Ashuckel]

The actual strongest mace for acolytes, and debatable to be for Genetics as well.

Only loses to Quadrlle[2] when the enemy is BOTH Undead/Demi Human AND Earth element.

 

 

Edited by Ashuckel, 13 May 2016 - 05:00 AM.

[fuyukikun]

well, this should be a replacement of veteran hammer. more atk, no need to get mace mastery for +20 crit. good for lora cards i guess

[sb120495]

It can't be enchanted so I doubt that it would be a good genetic weapon.

[Havenn]

Best genetic weapon for CC, about the same as a sweet erde for AB. Not as good as Thanatos hammer for FE.

 

why do they want me to keep making weapons...

[Kadelia]

The actual strongest mace for acolytes, and debatable to be for Genetics as well.
Only loses to Quadrlle[2] when the enemy is BOTH Undead/Demi Human AND Earth element.

It's not strictly better. You're just looking at the attack value. other weps like the veteran mace have just as many card slots and the same weapon level. They have a lower attack value, but they have additional benefits such as more critical rate and heal boost

[Ashuckel]

The actual strongest 

I'm not counting bonuses or whatever, just raw damage potential

[sb120495]

Best genetic weapon for CC, about the same as a sweet erde for AB. Not as good as Thanatos hammer for FE.

 

why do they want me to keep making weapons...

I think your pockets can handle it. What makes it the best though? It can't be enchanted right?

[Kadelia]

Crit results in higher damage than non crit with higher attack value.

I'm just saying it's not cut-and-dry

Edited by Kadelia, 13 May 2016 - 05:44 AM.

[fuyukikun]

It's not strictly better. You're just looking at the attack value. other weps like the veteran mace have just as many card slots and the same weapon level. They have a lower attack value, but they have additional benefits such as more critical rate and heal boost

robot's arm is level 4, vet hammer is level 3

[Ashuckel]

120 base luck+ Gloria + Takoyaki + Luk Food+ Tarnished Lamp = 192 Total luck = 64 crit rate

Fatal 10 FAW = 10 crit

+7 Crit Shadow Armor = 10 crit

Robot's Arm[2] = 20 crit

Buche de Noel = 7 Crit

Arunafeltz Sandwich = 7 crit

Total = 118

A lot already isn't it?

[Havenn]

I think your pockets can handle it. What makes it the best though? It can't be enchanted right?

 

It's just that CC cares too much about raw wATK I guess, it didn't seem to make much sense to me looking at it at first, but running the numbers on the azzy calc, the robot arm beats my erde and thana hammer for CC, beats the erde a bit for AB, is the same as thana hammer for AB. 

 

I like Thana hammer for the RWH effect it has, seems like wearing rwh all the time without having to take off emh or hwhb

[Kadelia]

120 base luck+ Gloria + Takoyaki + Luk Food+ Tarnished Lamp = 192 Total luck = 64 crit rate

Fatal 10 FAW = 10 crit

+7 Crit Shadow Armor = 10 crit

Robot's Arm[2] = 20 crit

Buche de Noel = 7 Crit

Arunafeltz Sandwich = 7 crit

Total = 118

A lot already isn't it?

158 aspd?

[Ashuckel]

193

[PervySageMarty]

It is a failed product. I am waiting for Noble Cross.

[leiand]

How do you obtain this weapon?

[Ashuckel]

Last MVP from Charleston instance drops it, very low rate

[Schizzler]

It's good but not that good, especially for Sura; but it just depends. Way better than Carga IMO. 2slots and 20 more ATK is nice; but Crit is arguably not important for Suras, and the weight... Worst part IMO (this plus BSB and Shackle weight?).

[Schizzler]

Guess it benefits auto attack Monk class builds...

[Ashuckel]

150 more than carga, or the same as thanatos hammer, not that much more weight to discard it's use

[Schizzler]

Oh that's true, it's level 4 as opposed to Carga's 3. Thanks Ashuckel! Sorry didn't factor in refinement either.

[PervySageMarty]

Your all wrong. Best weapon is mjolnir after god balance update where acolyte class can now use it.

[fuyukikun]

got this weapon after killing the boss 3 times. wonder if i should card it with lora card or AK.
for general boss fighting purpose that can be shared among chars.

[Ashuckel]

AK without any doubts. 

I'd save a higher upgraded one (+12) for White Knight cards.