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#26 Ashuckel

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 02:46 AM

Nah, temp dex too good, specially if HE procs :v
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Posted 21 May 2016 - 03:11 AM

HE procs will benefit both KB and arm vulcan
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Posted 21 May 2016 - 03:21 AM

BP give me a good 7k more damage than HE when it procs


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 04:49 AM

raise your KB level to 5 and see the difference
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Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:26 AM

It might seem obvious, but with the new mechanic set, you are no longer required to go 120 dex. 

 

This gives more options to increase some other stats besides dex, probably allowing for more flexibility in stat allocation.


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:12 AM

@kiddo313

 

It might be worth it just for AC damage, depending on if you can get it spam-able without the dex boots. I find the 120 dex worth it personally because of the KB skill. I do alot more single target dps with KB than I do with AC.


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:49 AM

I'm actually using the EA FAW with Temporal Dex Boots right now Boxinguru.  Still saving up money to buy/farm for the new mechanic gears.  Glad to know that my old gears aren't obsolete, and the new mechanic accessories and armor are still quite useful even without the full set bonus. 

 

Another question though, I've been looking around the Database website and found discrepancies with Pile Bunker S.

 

The irowiki database states that it reduces Cast Delay with every 2 upgrades, while the website says it increases attack speed every 2 upgrades.  Which one is it?

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:03 AM

I am pretty sure it is ASPD increase every 2 upgrades. I haven't seen one in game and am working on farming engines to find out. 

 

 

 


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 04:02 PM

gonna stick with sharp HF
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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:13 PM

Keep us updated Boxinguru.

On a related note, has anyone tried playing as an Axe Mechanic with the new Tornado Axe and Supplement Gears?

Could anyone confirm if the supplement bonuses stack?
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Posted 21 May 2016 - 10:47 PM

I have tested Axe Mechanic a little bit. With a +9 sea captains hat, +7 Tornado axe, and supplement gear it does decent damage. I was doing similar damage compared to arm cannon but was able to spam faster with axe tornado.  


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:20 PM

I have tested Axe Mechanic a little bit. With a +9 sea captains hat, +7 Tornado axe, and supplement gear it does decent damage. I was doing similar damage compared to arm cannon but was able to spam faster with axe tornado.


Could you also confirm if the supplement gear bonuses stack?

Edited by kiddo313, 21 May 2016 - 11:21 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:35 PM

Could you also confirm if the supplement gear bonuses stack?

 

 

Im not sure what you mean by stacking. If I equip the armor and garment I do get the 25% tornado bonus. If I add the dex supplement I get the boomerang bonus. If I add another dex I do get double casting reduction and sp cost but I dont get double boomerang damage.


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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:38 PM

I have tested Axe Mechanic a little bit. With a +9 sea captains hat, +7 Tornado axe, and supplement gear it does decent damage. I was doing similar damage compared to arm cannon but was able to spam faster with axe tornado.

mind giving us the test result? like
with or without hat, with or without tornado axe, with or without gear set, and combination.
sorry for putting too much work
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Posted 21 May 2016 - 11:50 PM

143/35

 

Str 120+ 5

Agi 10+ 2

Vit  95+5

Int  50 +3

Dex  90 +2

Luk 1 +5

 

Max level axe tornado skill. No buffs.

 

+7 Tornado Axe only ~1100 damage per hit

 

+7 Tornado Axe

+4 Supplement Str

+4 Supplement Con ~1500 damage per hit

 

+7 Tornado Axe

+4 Supplement Str

+4 Supplement Con

Supplement Dex ~ 1500 damage per hit

 

+7 Tornado Axe

+4 Supplement Str

+4 Supplement Con

Supplement Dex 

+9 Sea Captain Hat ~ 1800 damage per hit

 

The Sea Captain Hat does not appear to be stacking correctly. Will need more testing. Quick testing, so accuracy may not be 100%.

 


Edited by Boxinguru, 21 May 2016 - 11:50 PM.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:16 AM

supplementary str has exclusive combo if worn with one of other parts. if wearing all 4 of supplementary parts, will all combo effects activated? or just one combo activated?

Edited by fuyukikun, 22 May 2016 - 12:26 AM.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:18 AM

Yea, you can get all the set bonuses at once.


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:27 AM

great to hear. thanks
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Posted 22 May 2016 - 01:27 AM

Again, thank you Boxinguru for those tests.

 

I believe  fuyukikun stated the "stacking" question I had a bit better.  Again, thank you for confirming that you can get all supplement armor bonuses when you have them equipped together.


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:50 AM

There are just a few gears I find appealing with this update. The AC set would be worthwhile if it was 100% increase instead of 50%. The best part of the set are the barrels, but only for KB. 

 

The Axe Tornado set is barely worth it. You need a +9 Sea Captains Hat to do similar damage to the AC build. The Tornado Axe is good for spamming AT, also increases damage slightly. You take alot more damage as well. 

 

 


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 05:58 PM

Now, all we need to know are the enchantments we can get for the new Mechanic gears.

 

1.  Which of the new armors can be enchanted?  Does it include the new weapons as well?

 

2.  Do we get better enchantments at +9?  What're the possible enchantments for each type of gear?

 

 


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 01:42 AM

I am pretty sure it is ASPD increase every 2 upgrades. I haven't seen one in game and am working on farming engines to find out. 

 

Boxinguru, I've found one on vend a while ago.

 

Apparently, Pile Bunker S reduces cast delay by 1% every 2 upgrades.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 12:31 PM

141/32

 

Str 120

Agi ?? server down, i have no idea atm

Vit  100

Int  1

Dex  60 

Luk 30 

 

Max level axe tornado skill with supplement str and con, lvl 3 axe boomerang +7 supplement str and dex and  a tornado axe +7 non- carded. No buffs.

 

 my average for axe tornado i do about 2 k/tik  with out buffs as long as they are not wind property or earth property
axe boomerang average damage with out buffs , wearing supplement str and dex  at lvl 3 is about 30k. while wearing +9 sea captain hat with a pollution [dark penguicula] 


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:27 PM

Thank you samm21 for these test results too.

 

Let's hope we get more details regarding the enchantments at +9 soon ^^


Edited by kiddo313, 02 June 2016 - 05:55 PM.

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 08:03 AM

Do you guys know that the effect of +7 Sea Captain hat does not work properly. It doesnt increase 10% damage according to Weapon Research skill. Who can fix this??
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