8 replies to this topic

[Remulius]

So i looked around the forums and iro and was unable to found the answer i wanted about weapons for the SC (Maybe im just dumb and i skyped a good subject) this said a few guides around there were giving a choice of weapons without really giving aditional informations and so from what i understood was best for a autospell SC would be:

 

-RWC Memory knife (1) (side note it must be coupled with the RWC pendant & ring) wich made me wonder if it was best or not 

 

-Elemental Sword (3) (it was recommended to me after a few questions to some friends of mine because then i would have my accesorie spots free for other things/that said they also told me i would require either consumables or equipments orientend more around aspd to gte that 193asp because of the sword penalty right) 

 

-Faceworm Queen Leg (actualy i didn't find a guide wich recomended this one i actually found one friend wich told me about it and iro wiki wich would recomend it) 

 

So now for the question wich would be best between those or are they better weapond or equaly good one i missed in the process? (pls do correct anything i said that is wrong i did my bets in my research i Hope you guys can help out has im still a newbie to the SC) 

 

Thanks in Advance for any reply! 

[hotel]

Faceworm Queen Leg is the best, followed closely by Thanatos Dagger. RWC Dagger is okay, wouldn't recommend Elemental Sword though.

[Remulius]

i see thanks that clarifies that is there equipment i should be aiming at specificly? a the moment im with (RWC pendant/wing/memory knife+7/hero backpack+9,and some random -_-z that are worth no more than 50k zenny)

[hotel]

The two pieces of gear that'll make the biggest difference for you will be a CD in mouth and a Temporal Agi Boots AD4/Runaway Magic. Both are somewhat pricey but are way more important than anything else (after your weapon, of course).

[Alirah]

Faceworm Queen Leg is the best, followed closely by Thanatos Dagger. RWC Dagger is okay, wouldn't recommend Elemental Sword though.

As a matter of curiosity, why is the Thanatos Dagger better then a (highly upgraded) RWC Knife?  FQL is understandably better, no questions there.

[beaupoem]

thanatos dagger has 130 base matk, and is a lvl 4 weapon so will gain more atk/matk per upgrade than a RWC knife

[hotel]

As a matter of curiosity, why is the Thanatos Dagger better then a (highly upgraded) RWC Knife?  FQL is understandably better, no questions there.

 

Haven't done the exact math on it but the RWC Knife would need to be at a very high refine level to beat out a reasonably refined Thanatos Dagger.

[mildcontempt]

A +12 RWC knife with pendant combo beats a +9 Thanatos Dagger. At that point they have roughly the same matk from refines and the combo bonus, but the RWC gets an extra 10% matk bonus from its +6 and +9 bonuses (and an additional +1% matk from the pendant itself). The Thanatos dagger does give 6 int, which is 9status matk and some bonus sp tho.

 

At +10 and higher, the Thanatos starts to outshine the RWC knife and overtake it in damage by around +11 or +12, depending on how much other matk you're stacking for the 11% bonus from the RWC knife; but because it is a level 4 weapon, it is much harder to get to +10 than the RWC knife.

 

I'd also suggest not +10ing it, because you'd be better off investing into a FQL at that point and cost. 

 

I did not include the RWC pin, only the pendant + knife, and I also did not consider what enchants or cards the pendant would have. 

 

The other trade off is that you can use an RWC knife from day 1 where-as you need to be 120 for the Thanatos dagger. 

[Ashuckel]

+12 Faceworm Queen Leg = 156~364 MATK, 2 slots

+12 RWC Knife+ Pendant = 260~312 MATK, 1 slot, 11% matk(1% from pendant)

+12 Thanatos Dagger = 169~385 MATK, 1 slot


In my case i have a +14 RWC Knife[Zakudam] and a RWC Pendant INT2 INT3 Spell3 Spell3

Wich is a total of 321.5~393.5, 10% demi human magic dmg, 11% matk

Edited by Ashuckel, 01 June 2016 - 07:04 AM.