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#26 tubers

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Posted 19 June 2016 - 10:16 PM

desperado gunslinger, or blaze shield ninja. coz nobody has time to do 2nd class job change quest

 

Thanks. Might look into it.

 

GTB is just part of the benefits, they are other MvP and instances you can farm. I personally think it is crazy to camp every 1 hour for GTB to spawn, then competite with 3-4 other Gene who are geared to the teeth.  Using that 1 hour camp time, I could have another character that would ensure me 3 GTB every week from then on.  Plus it will be able to farm Eden badges and doing many other quests like daily quen in the process. So its a win win situation if you have the resource to level them up and time for some considerable amount of grind.

I think gunslinger is the strongest non-tran class at level 99. Fastest to level and also the strongest out of all. However, the consumables are very expensives. If you don't have hundreds of millions to burn, then level 90-95 Knights are next in line. Knights have very good AOE and they are extremely cheap to gear. You literally can get away with anything on just WPH + elemental claymore. 

GTB is pathetically easy.  Any class with decent AOE and with HP pool over 10,000 at level 90s can kill GTB. The AOE is used to get past desert wolf floor, and the rest can be pot through with enough Pumpkins.  10,000HP  (13k after Increase HP pot)  is to avoid being one shot by GTB mamonite + Magnumbreak, 

Now this is not an easy method to get GTB card, but it is a more reasonable and feasible approach. You will likely be killing thousands of GTB before the card even drop. And that could be a year or two from now. 
 

 

1. What do you mean? A level 99 character is allowed to have private access, 3 times a week? What quest is that? Holy crap Daily Quen? Gotta look more into that sounds cool with prizes.

 

2. I see. So I should go 2H with elem claymore for cheap, fast leveling huh? Any skill and stat build suggestions? I wish Sword Guardian cards are cheap! They're soooooooo expensive now. :( Also, do u know how I can see those bowling bash gutter lines? Very confused on how that works.

 

Thanks!

BTW, I am not planning to the awesome thing you're planning and just wanted to know about it just for the sake of knowing LOL. Before I quit, I just wanna dick with lvl 100 Gene, RK and GX. I only have a level 100+ ranger. After that, I'm probably gonna take a long break or just quit altogether since this game is starting to stress me out like crazy hahahaha!


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Posted 19 June 2016 - 10:31 PM

1. You can do Endless Tower up to 3 times a week. If you level the knights up to be an RK, then you can probably kill Mistress also in the process using AGI/Crit build. You can get to 99 fairly quickly by leveling off GTB alone actually lol.  Rebel cannot kill Mistress effectively due to low HP pool. (JT = instant dead with wind armor)

2. Sword Guardians are a waste of money. I have 2x Sword Guardian Violet Fear FS11 + converter, and I probably do at most 3k more bowling bash total damage than +5 elemental Claymore. It would be a considerable amount of extra DPS if iRO didn't put 500msec skill delay on the bowling bash. That 3-4k extra damage is mostly useless. In practice, you almost get better DPS auto clicking the boss on elemental Claymore than dealing with Bowling Bash delays.

The most important stats for any characters is DEX. You need to be able to hit things.  Then follow by STR. You level faster if your magnum break 1 hit kill the mobs like Orc Warrioers. You can use Savage BBQ + Tako + High DMG weapon for this instead. 20 STR at least for carrying weight however. The rest  AGI/VIT/INT can be solved by potting. I would prefer some AGI for control click DPS, Enough VIT to avoid being one hit killed. 20 INT because it only cost few skills point and it adds so much SP pool and increase efficiency of SP items. That's pretty much the rule of thumb.


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 12:37 AM

3 times per character ? how ? 


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 01:35 AM

i think he meant 3 times per week per account containing 3 chars
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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:12 AM

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Technically an exploit, one of the things that cannot be fixed overnight. Let's not discuss how it is done in lengths next time.


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:27 AM

Bug exploiting shouldnt be discussed on forums....
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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:57 AM

Running multiple ET per week is a well known feature used by many guilds and veterans. I joined 7-8 guilds now and they all run ET 2-3 times a week.  If it is a bug, then they should patch it by removing the ashes altogether. This also means that any disconnected user from ET will have to wait a week to do it again (instead of having 2 chances to come back). Hardly affect the grinders as they are swimming in 100-200 characters to work on or they just make more characters. 

I honestly don't see why people need to hide it from newer users. Everybody deserve an equal chance of obtaining rare items such as MvP cards. 


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 03:05 AM

Its still bug exploit
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Posted 20 June 2016 - 04:46 AM

Hmm it's a well known feature or "bug" as you called it that has been used for years now. It's a disservice to other players not to let them know while you reaping the benefits of such feature. Otherwise, they might as well patch it by removing the ashes altogether, but that would make a lot of people unhappy as any disconnects = 7 days cool down. 

1 ET run is unprofitable for most parties. You need to gather a whole bunch of people on a weekend just to run it. And if you can only run it once, there would be less incentive to do so. With 3 loots worth of ET instances, most 12 man party only split 20-40m each, a peanut. Imagine with 1 run per week and often times the loots are crap anyways. 


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Posted 20 June 2016 - 04:56 AM

All right, the ET re-entry discussion has been put on private view till the CMs are in. Please do not engage in the same topic till they decide if re-entering instances explanatory is OKAY for public view or not. If all good, the posts will be put back up. Thank you.
 

 

[Update 1:04PM]
After reviewing the posts by a CM:

Technically what has been discussed is an exploit, it can't be patched overnight without offering a greater cost in return. Let's not discuss how it is done in lengths next time.

 

 

Now back on topic we go!


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 12:43 PM

1. You can do Endless Tower up to 3 times a week. If you level the knights up to be an RK, then you can probably kill Mistress also in the process using AGI/Crit build. You can get to 99 fairly quickly by leveling off GTB alone actually lol.  Rebel cannot kill Mistress effectively due to low HP pool. (JT = instant dead with wind armor)

2. Sword Guardians are a waste of money. I have 2x Sword Guardian Violet Fear FS11 + converter, and I probably do at most 3k more bowling bash total damage than +5 elemental Claymore. It would be a considerable amount of extra DPS if iRO didn't put 500msec skill delay on the bowling bash. That 3-4k extra damage is mostly useless. In practice, you almost get better DPS auto clicking the boss on elemental Claymore than dealing with Bowling Bash delays.

The most important stats for any characters is DEX. You need to be able to hit things.  Then follow by STR. You level faster if your magnum break 1 hit kill the mobs like Orc Warrioers. You can use Savage BBQ + Tako + High DMG weapon for this instead. 20 STR at least for carrying weight however. The rest  AGI/VIT/INT can be solved by potting. I would prefer some AGI for control click DPS, Enough VIT to avoid being one hit killed. 20 INT because it only cost few skills point and it adds so much SP pool and increase efficiency of SP items. That's pretty much the rule of thumb.

 

Thanks.

 

Bought a Veteran sword and hope it's worth it spamming bash and bb + straws.

 

Yeah. I'm gonna use some savage bbq :D Never heard of tako tho :D

 

Gonna try and make a swordie later. My very first RO class eons ago xD


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 12:34 PM

I made a level 90 knight a couple days ago just to show you that you can solo GTB with it. It took me less than 1 hour to make a level 90 Knight with just 1 BMX3. So you could delete and remake char and repeat if you feel like hunting GTB all day long xD

I just autoclick the GTB and it only does 100 damage to me with Valk Shield + Deviling. You could easily get away with just raydric garment, if you pump some more carrots.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 05:31 PM

autoclick at 177 ASPD? wonder how long. oh and i believe the most damage you take is not from GTB, but from the reflected damage from GTB's shield reflect.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:36 AM

Around 2-4 minute with control click at 700 damage per hit. My stats build makes a lot of room for mistake. You're never going into the red bar, as you HP hardly go lower than 75%. I could kill GTB a lot faster with 99 AGI + Two hand Quicken + Ice Claymore, but I am ok spending few seconds extra to ensure I kill it instead of risk dying due to lag or whatever. Shield reflect does not do damage to you at all, even if you're bowling bashing the GTB.

If you have lots of resource, I would say Rebel is much much faster. It clear the first four floors in seconds, then GTB only take few seconds to defeat. 

Not a bad method for a chance at OP card, no competition, no godly gears required. Just dedication, determination, and lots of carrots xD. 


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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:56 AM

reflect shield level 10 makes you got damaged 280 for every 700 atk you made. yeah, rebel is best choice. if you plan to 99 something, why not make army of rebels??
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Posted 24 June 2016 - 03:40 AM

3-56 orc village (just use hp increase potions and fencer scroll. approx 15-17mins BMX3)

57-71 blossoms (2mins BMX3)

72-99 ---72-90 harpy 90-99 magma dungeon 2 when solo/low TI (30mins BMX3)


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Posted 24 June 2016 - 04:59 AM

What classes are you using at magma 2?  How do you manage resupply run? I would be burning through pumpkins like no tomorrow with how hard those mob hits. 


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 03:09 PM

Thanks again. Gonna check the knight build and vud when u get home.

BTW, I tried starting with a merchant at level 11 and follwoing the same route as you guys but I only reached lvl 52 in one bmx3.

Is it because I don't have weapons that one shot mobs?

I used savage meat, candy, blast clip,x4 Andre m gauche, vvs 2h fire axe, bloody axe.
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Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:40 PM

3-56 orc village (just use hp increase potions and fencer scroll. approx 15-17mins BMX3)

57-71 blossoms (2mins BMX3)

72-99 ---72-90 harpy 90-99 magma dungeon 2 when solo/low TI (30mins BMX3)

 

What level of fencer scroll?

Also, can I buy high level fencer scroll, put it in storage and let my other character use it, within the same account?


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Posted 28 June 2016 - 02:12 AM

Thanks again. Gonna check the knight build and vud when u get home.

BTW, I tried starting with a merchant at level 11 and follwoing the same route as you guys but I only reached lvl 52 in one bmx3.

Is it because I don't have weapons that one shot mobs?

I used savage meat, candy, blast clip,x4 Andre m gauche, vvs 2h fire axe, bloody axe.

Do you have a timer of each BMX3 where you changed the map?  For example, you should be in spore map start mobbing at 27 minute BMX3 mark. Move on to Orc village no later than 15-18 minute mark.  21 minute mark is optimal from my experience. 

If you only get to level 52, you should look at the following.

1. Did you die at all?  Syncing up tako and HP potion is really important. You should eat HP inrease potion and Tako at the same time, then eat HP potion again when Tako reaches 3 minute, and re-eat Takoyaki just to make timer sync up. Never let HP pot expires as it can be life and death.  Respawning is a huge waste of time.
2. Did you need to run back for pots?  All the items should be well prepared in advanced. 
3. Are you constantling winging and mobbing?  
4. If you cannot one shot mob (Orc Warriors in particular), you can use blessing / agi scroll from Eden group.  That usually might seal the deal. Otherwise you need more STR. However, I think the best you can do is 2 shot with blast clip as it is only level 3 magnum break. So you need to get a bigger mob to compensate for that. 
5. Did you incorporate +7 leaf cat hat?

Alchemist + Black smith will have a very difficult time soloing low TI due to lack of AOE. 


Fencer scroll is only good up unti llow TI. They die very quickly in low TI once the mobs got to them. You can put in kafra storage and transfer between character. They cannot be traded. 
 


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Posted 28 June 2016 - 12:03 PM

Do you have a timer of each BMX3 where you changed the map?  For example, you should be in spore map start mobbing at 27 minute BMX3 mark. Move on to Orc village no later than 15-18 minute mark.  21 minute mark is optimal from my experience. 

If you only get to level 52, you should look at the following.

1. Did you die at all?  Syncing up tako and HP potion is really important. You should eat HP inrease potion and Tako at the same time, then eat HP potion again when Tako reaches 3 minute, and re-eat Takoyaki just to make timer sync up. Never let HP pot expires as it can be life and death.  Respawning is a huge waste of time.
2. Did you need to run back for pots?  All the items should be well prepared in advanced. 
3. Are you constantling winging and mobbing?  
4. If you cannot one shot mob (Orc Warriors in particular), you can use blessing / agi scroll from Eden group.  That usually might seal the deal. Otherwise you need more STR. However, I think the best you can do is 2 shot with blast clip as it is only level 3 magnum break. So you need to get a bigger mob to compensate for that. 
5. Did you incorporate +7 leaf cat hat?

Alchemist + Black smith will have a very difficult time soloing low TI due to lack of AOE. 


Fencer scroll is only good up unti llow TI. They die very quickly in low TI once the mobs got to them. You can put in kafra storage and transfer between character. They cannot be traded. 
 

 

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1. Nope. Didn't die at all. I've never used Tako. Just checked and seem it sells out easily.

2. Nope. I have them all in one run of the BMX3 and use Fresh Fish for low weight. I always start at no less than level 11 before I use the manual.

3. Yep. Liberal use of flywings. Spore map is such a gamble because there are plenty of avatars there but I still stick to that map until 31.

4. Yeah. Unless I have some overupgraded stuff, I think 2 shot is the best I can do.

5. Yep.

 

The most annoying to me is the Spore map since it's such a variable. Sometimes I get very lucky and get a lot of spores while fwinging but sometimes there's just too many people and I land at unlucky spots with one/two spores and spread out smokies.

 

I also don't have FAW/HBPs or anything like that.

 

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+7 Leaf Cat

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+4 temporal boots (lvl 10 requirement)

 

+9 x4 andre m. gauche

+5 VVS 2H Fire Axe (lvl 30)

+4 Bloody Axe (lvl 44 - no need to use Candy for movespeed)

 

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