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#1 Sewasan

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 06:48 PM

This kind of remind me the time when i start leveling my Sura with Skyblow and Rampage Blast years ago :v but FC is definitely better, im taking this leveling kind of light, so even if im going slow im having fun for the moment :D Sura is not the usual characters i use but, this was my very first character here, so i couldnt delete it xD

 

Gear is on the description

 


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 06:58 AM

Looks good! Do try out the malicious shadow set, it adds quite some HP and allows more leeching


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 05:30 PM

im poor, i just use the free one XD :<


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 05:53 PM

im poor, i just use the free one XD :<

 

lol you poor scrub


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 04:51 AM

But you seem to be spending quite a lot in pots


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:24 AM

not really just 400 whites and i use like 8-9 seeds, im improving since then tho using less hahahaha xD, i actually agree that Malicious set will be awesome, but i dont have the money right now to buy one sadly, and is cheaper for me to get a couple of pots

 

im a poor scrub like Marty said :p_sad: :p_cry:


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 02:16 PM

Continue crying, your tears are delicious and it sustains me.
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Posted 23 June 2016 - 04:45 PM

Continue crying, your tears are delicious and it sustains me.

 

:p_laugh: :heh:
 


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 04:51 PM

If i could I would just simply stick a breastmilk pump to your eyes so it can collect the tears when you cry. Its more hygenic that way :waddle:


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Posted 25 June 2016 - 04:52 PM

LOOOOOOOOOOL XD


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Posted 25 June 2016 - 05:05 PM

the hell happening to the course of this thread???
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Posted 26 June 2016 - 09:37 AM

Dont know xD
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Posted 26 June 2016 - 12:56 PM

I also have no idea what is going on anymore....................... :waddle:


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 04:30 PM

based on my calculation, this is the rank of TC damage, comparing 6 different setups, all setup using level 160 Sura (my level right now) and using robot's arm weapon and 2 bako tatts accessories:

1st: 117k damage

100 STR

100 INT

120 VIT

+6 Temporal Vit Boots [1] with green ferus card

GFWS Vit 10

 

2nd: 108k damage

120 STR

100 INT

100 VIT

+6 Temporal Str Boots [1] with green ferus card

GFWS Vit 10

 

3rd: 102k damage

100 STR

100 INT

120 VIT

+6 Temporal Vit Boots [1] with green ferus card

+9 HBP

 

4th: 100k damage

100 STR

100 INT

120 VIT

Variant Shoes

GFWS Vit 10

 
5th: 96k damage

120 STR

100 INT

100 VIT

Variant Shoes

GFWS Vit 10

 

6th: 93k damage

120 STR

100 INT

100 VIT

+6 Temporal Str Boots [1] green ferus carded

+9 HBP

 

Things not included:

stat foods

HP/SP increase pots

 

Things i havent calculated:

using +9 Enhanced Variant Shoes with Firelock Soldier card

+9 Temporal Vit Boots with Firelock Soldier card

+9 Temporal Str Boots with Firelock Soldier card

+9 FAW perfect FS with wakwak or jejeling

 

 

But from the calculation, it can be concluded that 120 vit build using temporal vit boots > 120 str build using temporal str boots.

But from the calculation you can always decide since all builds will 2 shots big bells. The minimum damage to 2 shots bigbells is 83k damage. So, you can pick your choice based on your economy, coz no use aiming for big damage and investing many zeny if you ended up 2 shotting bigbells, no different to economy build one.


Edited by fuyukikun, 27 June 2016 - 04:23 PM.

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 12:51 PM

I have something like the second setup you mentioned, i use a different weapon tho (+7 Thanatos hammer with hunter fly) so i can leech HP/SP while leveling, as im not able to one shot them anyway i prefer to do a little bit less dmg but more survivality i guess, that info is nice, i think is pretty much the same another guy told long ago (ka10?? or something like that?) wich said that bassically with no tao temporal vit were better because more hp=more dmg, but if you have access to a huge hp enhancer (like a tao) temporal str will be much better, thx for posting your test results.


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 04:00 PM

I have something like the second setup you mentioned, i use a different weapon tho (+7 Thanatos hammer with hunter fly) so i can leech HP/SP while leveling, as im not able to one shot them anyway i prefer to do a little bit less dmg but more survivality i guess, that info is nice, i think is pretty much the same another guy told long ago (ka10?? or something like that?) wich said that bassically with no tao temporal vit were better because more hp=more dmg, but if you have access to a huge hp enhancer (like a tao) temporal str will be much better, thx for posting your test results.

 

What about a Bryn? My sura is 120vit based with Firelock Temp vit boots


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 04:22 PM

that's not test result, just me messing up with excel lol. i've been wanting to level my sura to 175 by myself, and i come across to do that excel calculation


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 05:36 PM

What about a Bryn? My sura is 120vit based with Firelock Temp vit boots

 

According to some people Bryn will be ok, but gives you less increase in HP...but gives you sp, and 10% more ATK, so i guess should be better? i dont test that, i probably will do that later, but...im too lazy to ask for a bryn xD

 

that's not test result, just me messing up with excel lol. i've been wanting to level my sura to 175 by myself, and i come across to do that excel calculation

 

ups xD anyway thx for sharing hahaha xD...leveling is pretty cool, gives you a totally different understanding of your class...most of the times XD


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Posted 27 June 2016 - 06:46 PM

why dont you use evil armor? using glorious suit or bryn hurts since big bells cast powerful dark attack
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Posted 27 June 2016 - 10:12 PM

Yeah im aware of that because i tend to read your posts before to get some info (specially on new dungeons) buuuut as a Sura you have a very good mobility so you dont have to tank all the dmg, plus 20% minus HP i think will have a huge impact on the dmg...but im just guessing


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:03 PM

based on my calculation, this is the rank of TC damage, comparing 6 different setups, all setup using level 160 Sura (my level right now) and using robot's arm weapon and 2 bako tatts accessories:
1st: 117k damage
100 STR
100 INT
120 VIT
+6 Temporal Vit Boots [1] with green ferus card
GFWS Vit 10

2nd: 108k damage
120 STR
100 INT
100 VIT
+6 Temporal Str Boots [1] with green ferus card
GFWS Vit 10

3rd: 102k damage
100 STR
100 INT
120 VIT
+6 Temporal Vit Boots [1] with green ferus card
+9 HBP

4th: 100k damage
100 STR
100 INT
120 VIT
Variant Shoes
GFWS Vit 10

5th: 96k damage

120 STR
100 INT
100 VIT
Variant Shoes
GFWS Vit 10

6th: 93k damage
120 STR
100 INT
100 VIT
+6 Temporal Str Boots [1] green ferus carded
+9 HBP

Things not included:
stat foods
HP/SP increase pots

Things i havent calculated:
using +9 Enhanced Variant Shoes with Firelock Soldier card
+9 Temporal Vit Boots with Firelock Soldier card
+9 Temporal Str Boots with Firelock Soldier card
+9 FAW perfect FS with wakwak or jejeling


But from the calculation, it can be concluded that 120 vit build using temporal vit boots > 120 str build using temporal str boots.
But from the calculation you can always decide since all builds will 2 shots big bells. The minimum damage to 2 shots bigbells is 83k damage. So, you can pick your choice based on your economy, coz no use aiming for big damage and investing many zeny if you ended up 2 shotting bigbells, no different to economy build one.


sorry to bring an old thread back to life. is it okay to go without dex?
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Posted 22 July 2017 - 09:34 PM

TC still takes hit rate and flee into account. So without dex, your hit rate most likely won't be enough to hit big bell.
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