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[gengki22]

This thread will be dedicated to discuss just everything about Arrow Storm.

 

There has been a lot of pampering for this skill from the previous updates.

 

First, is the coming of White wing set and the sound amplifiers.

- pretty much increased the overall damage of AS and halves its overall cast time.

 

Second, the increased level gap update that brought the "No Limit" skill to life.

- do I need to say more? LOL! this skill pretty much made the AS a god like type rofl.

 

Third, is the release of Old Glast Heim and Dex temporal boots with spell enchant.

- With this combo the skill Arrow storm and no limit furthermore increased it's god like mode to no cast at all haha XD

 

Fourth, Autumn Headband

- another update to pump up the skill... not to mention the refine level bonus and the existence of 

Big Cross Bow which has the same effect LOL

 

With all of these,

What do you guys think of a skill that can be spammed with too much damage and no cast at all?

 

For me, I think it is time to finally change the way this skill is being used.

Why not put a fixed cast time for Arrow Storm ? I think it's variable cast time is no longer applicable since there has been a lot of update to increase its damage.

 

With the skill level at its max. it can do 

Base

Damage (ATK)^[1]

Area o

f Effect

Cast

Time (Var)

Cooldown SP Cost

1,800%                11x11             3.8s           3.2s          48

 

Variable cast time? Seriously? for a skill with too much attack power increasing gears?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against rangers, but looking at the performance of this skill.. i think it's cons are outdated.

 

Just my thoughts.. let me know yours..

 

[StunTosMati]

put fixed cast time......??LOLOL...........!!NO WAY...........!!

[Silvianna]

 we need to buff it even further 

[Nirvanna21]

 

This thread will be dedicated to discuss just everything about Arrow Storm.

 

There has been a lot of pampering for this skill from the previous updates.

 

First, is the coming of White wing set and the sound amplifiers.

- pretty much increased the overall damage of AS and halves its overall cast time.

 

Second, the increased level gap update that brought the "No Limit" skill to life.

- do I need to say more? LOL! this skill pretty much made the AS a god like type rofl.

 

Third, is the release of Old Glast Heim and Dex temporal boots with spell enchant.

- With this combo the skill Arrow storm and no limit furthermore increased it's god like mode to no cast at all haha XD

 

Fourth, Autumn Headband

- another update to pump up the skill... not to mention the refine level bonus and the existence of 

Big Cross Bow which has the same effect LOL

 

With all of these,

What do you guys think of a skill that can be spammed with too much damage and no cast at all?

 

For me, I think it is time to finally change the way this skill is being used.

Why not put a fixed cast time for Arrow Storm ? I think it's variable cast time is no longer applicable since there has been a lot of update to increase its damage.

 

With the skill level at its max. it can do 

Base

Damage (ATK)^[1]

Area o

f Effect

Cast

Time (Var)

Cooldown SP Cost

1,800%                11x11             3.8s           3.2s          48

 

Variable cast time? Seriously? for a skill with too much attack power increasing gears?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against rangers, but looking at the performance of this skill.. i think it's cons are outdated.

 

Just my thoughts.. let me know yours..

 

 

Re: First

The White Wing Set is fine.

 

Re: Second

Agreed, No Limit made this skill amazing.

 

Re: Third

Meh, while I think it is great, it does in fact break the set, however the boots do seem really good for Aimed Bolt.

 

Re: Fourth

The AHB is the Ranger's answer to Cart Cannon. It gives it enough of a boost to be a viable competitor with Cart Cannon. The minute they fix that double dipping skill is the minute they can get rid of this. And the BXB is fine, it comes at a huge cost of increased SP used.

 

I think you have a point, but while other classes such as RK, Gene and GX are the way they are, then this needs to change.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 16 July 2016 - 12:54 AM.

[b4bads]

Rangers cannot equip shields, do you really want to nerf AS damage/boosters while being soft at the same time?

In addition to that, NL+WWS+AHB+BXB can barely kill other classes with shields during woe.

[fuyukikun]

nerf arrow storm

[8464131223201318730]

LoL

[ShoLin]

put fixed cast time......??LOLOL...........!!NO WAY...........!!

 

Doesn't sound like that bad of an idea.

 

 

Rangers cannot equip shields, do you really want to nerf AS damage/boosters while being soft at the same time?

In addition to that, NL+WWS+AHB+BXB can barely kill other classes with shields during woe.

 

Warlocks are in the same boat, should comet kill a whole guild because of that? Being on the receiving end of arrow storm, it seems like it doesn't matter on the ranger. I die or barely live.

 

Edited by ShoLin, 16 July 2016 - 11:04 AM.

[Doomsquare]

Shouldn't Dragon's Breath be nerfed in the same way too? Considering it's spamability with Mvp cards etc.

 

In fact, with unlimited funds, DB is wayyyyyyyyy overpowered as compared to Arrow Storm (at least we get to hit holy stuffs)

 

Ranger's AS, op as it may seem, it's only king in TIs, outside TI, it's pretty much just "decent"

[tubers]

 

This thread will be dedicated to discuss just everything about Arrow Storm.

 

There has been a lot of pampering for this skill from the previous updates.

 

First, is the coming of White wing set and the sound amplifiers.

- pretty much increased the overall damage of AS and halves its overall cast time.

 

Second, the increased level gap update that brought the "No Limit" skill to life.

- do I need to say more? LOL! this skill pretty much made the AS a god like type rofl.

 

Third, is the release of Old Glast Heim and Dex temporal boots with spell enchant.

- With this combo the skill Arrow storm and no limit furthermore increased it's god like mode to no cast at all haha XD

 

Fourth, Autumn Headband

- another update to pump up the skill... not to mention the refine level bonus and the existence of 

Big Cross Bow which has the same effect LOL

 

With all of these,

What do you guys think of a skill that can be spammed with too much damage and no cast at all?

 

For me, I think it is time to finally change the way this skill is being used.

Why not put a fixed cast time for Arrow Storm ? I think it's variable cast time is no longer applicable since there has been a lot of update to increase its damage.

 

With the skill level at its max. it can do 

Base

Damage (ATK)^[1]

Area o

f Effect

Cast

Time (Var)

Cooldown SP Cost

1,800%                11x11             3.8s           3.2s          48

 

Variable cast time? Seriously? for a skill with too much attack power increasing gears?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against rangers, but looking at the performance of this skill.. i think it's cons are outdated.

 

Just my thoughts.. let me know yours..

 

 

What's this spell enchant?

 

Is the AS from this boots auto cast? If it's an autocast fro auto attacking, does it mess with crit locks?

 

I remember seeing an autowarger doing no cast arrow storms on criatura eggs but can't remember if it was halting auto attacks.

[fuyukikun]

either hawkeye enchant procs or the user has 100% var cast time reduction

[tubers]

either hawkeye enchant procs or the user has 100% var cast time reduction

 

So is Ranger the only class that has something like that? When Hawkeye procs, AS is autocast with no cast time!? Do GXes proc some uber skill if they use Hawkeye temp boots?

 

BTW, when hawkeye procs with AS, does the user have to re-click the mob?

 

Thanks.

Edited by tubers, 28 July 2016 - 04:41 PM.

[Ashuckel]

It's possible with just very high dex '-'

[tubers]

It's possible with just very high dex '-'

 

I see.. but just to be clear, when Hawkeye is triggered; it comes with an AS and not just the user manually using the skill? 

 

Sorry, I easily get confused.

[Ashuckel]

its just a +200 dex effect

 

just manual use and click the target again right after, some ppl just happen to have instant cast AS
 

[fuyukikun]

So is Ranger the only class that has something like that? When Hawkeye procs, AS is autocast with no cast time!? Do GXes proc some uber skill if they use Hawkeye temp boots?

 

BTW, when hawkeye procs with AS, does the user have to re-click the mob?

 

Thanks.

any class can do it if they follow this 100% variable cast time formula:

 

dex*2 + int = 530

 

hawkeye only helps you since it gives 200 dex. just like ash said, you can do it even without hawkeye, by pumping those 2 stats using gears and foods.

 

using 2x sound amplifier will give instacast AS also.

 

 

 

u need to target AS to a mob since it is not autocast or selfcentered cast like Ignition Break or Rolling Cutter.

[tubers]

Thank you both. Now I understand that Hawkeye doesn't proc autocast AS but instead, someone used AS after Hawkeye proc'd.

[tubers]

Re: First

The White Wing Set is fine.

 

Re: Second

Agreed, No Limit made this skill amazing.

 

Re: Third

Meh, while I think it is great, it does in fact break the set, however the boots do seem really good for Aimed Bolt.

 

Re: Fourth

The AHB is the Ranger's answer to Cart Cannon. It gives it enough of a boost to be a viable competitor with Cart Cannon. The minute they fix that double dipping skill is the minute they can get rid of this. And the BXB is fine, it comes at a huge cost of increased SP used.

 

I think you have a point, but while other classes such as RK, Gene and GX are the way they are, then this needs to change.

 

CC is better than AS? How is it a "double dipping" skill?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Nirvanna21]

CC is better than AS? How is it a "double dipping" skill?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

If AS had zero after-skill delay and zero cast time then it would be the best damage skill in the game (obviously binding trap wins if an MVP has 20m+ HP).

 

Best way to highlight CC as a strong damage dealing skill that can be spammed like .

 

Fires a Cannon Ball at a single target from the pushcart to inflict ranged physical damage to all enemies around the target. This skill ignores the acurracy check and its damage is greatly affected by Cart Remodeling.

 

Defense values are not applied to this skill in the same way as they are applied to other skills. It appears that Hard Defense is subtracted off the final damage value instead of reducing damage by a percent.

 

04/02/2013 Patch: When using an elemental Cannon Ball, it takes the property from the equipped Cannon Ball and then reapplies its modifier on the whole damage.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 30 July 2016 - 01:30 PM.

[4782131221082418730]

If AS had zero after-skill delay and zero cast time then it would be the best damage skill in the game (obviously binding trap wins if an MVP has 20m+ HP).

 

easy.

[Nirvanna21]

easy.

 

Not saying it isn't, but saying that a Gene can pull off the same solo with no MVP gears :X

Edited by Nirvanna21, 30 July 2016 - 06:05 PM.

[mildcontempt]

Aftercast delay on AS? It's a cool down, and that can't be reduced as far as I know... right? 

[DeadIntern]

How I wish it's just an after-cast delay, instead of cool down.

[Ashuckel]

play jRO :v

[mildcontempt]

ASPD based arrow storm

 

oh god, I should be careful

 

kRO design team may accidentally read this and get ideas...