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#1 XDragonBane

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 09:39 AM

I have no idea if this is a real or not but running is BSQ is absolutely unacceptable. Being in a 1v1 BSQ with someone who kills you, takes all the flags, and just runs around the aqua BSQ is total BS and should, if not already, be a potential BSQ exploit and deserves a ban or other form of punishment to some extent. Yea some of you may this and that and why not do do it yourself and blah blah but no... I don't intent on corrupting BSQ with something damn annoying and stupid as running with all the flags until the timer reaches zero. I dont intent on buying and researching all the movement speed sets and items just to be able to catch the dumb runners. And hell no I'm not going to sweet talk him out of not running. What sucks the most? The guy was in a Lv60 BSQ with a Magma Lord weapon and no good equipment and just mocked if he got a hit or kill in. Capture the flag my <snip>... yea I understand to run if you're outnumber but if its 1v1 then that's not going to cut it just because you have suck <snip> equipment and the other person is better than you. You deserve to die because the other guy who's stronger deserves to win, simply because he put more effort into the game the no skill runner. Its nearly impossible for a low movement speed character to catch another if they are both just dash-jumping the whole arena. If no one is going to do anything about this BS then whats the point in joining a BSQ like this anyway, Why don't we all make a BSQ character at the minimum level with no equipment, join a near empty BSQ, and just run our sorry little hearts out in the aqua square??

 

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#2 Coolsam

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 02:04 PM

.............................Alright I'll say this again.

No matter what level,
No matter what gears seen,
No matter which class,
No matter which map,
And no matter what pointless drama-llama guild war circle of friends bs is participating,

You will always...ALWAYS find a runner in bsq. You should always expect one, even if it's 1vs1. No rework or anything change wise to this system is coming anytime soon. So deal with it and enough of the PG13 chat.
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#3 VinylDorayaki

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 03:12 PM

This is already a topic of arguments over and over again, If you don't want to encounter people like that, then don't even go to BSQ at all. Like CoolSam said, there will always be one, if you don't want to waste your time chasing then just leave. Simple


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Posted 29 July 2016 - 04:46 PM

He has a point and it should of been addressed years ago. His frustration comes from people who don't actually do battle square, but to troll the area by simply running on purpose instead of battle or camping out. Easy fix would of been to cap movement speed to max 300 or less for bsq-ew areas. Some one here will try to argue their points cause mainly they are the ones running, they will say is all tactics, or the main reason is to capture the flags. I see all those cases wrong, the main event is to battle, but instead what we see is guild trolling, people with enhanced characters running background programs to do what the chars were not meant to do. Everyone knows what the guild is and their behaviors and yet they are still doing it. 

 

That young man should of have taken a better approached to address the issues his having, but by no means is wrong to want changes that should of been addressed already.

 

Let's hope most of this issues are taken care off during Arcadia update, otherwise the game will continue to decline from one of the fewest good action area in the game.


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#5 Elijazz

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 08:54 AM

sigh. This issue has been posted unlimited times. 


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#6 Yuumikitsu

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 10:10 AM

"bsq-ew areas."  "they will say is all tactics". "I see all those cases wrong, the main event is to battle, but instead what we see is guild trolling, people with enhanced characters running background programs to do what the chars were not meant to do. Everyone knows what the guild is and their behaviors and yet they are still doing it. "

 

Don't get Emporia into this topic, It's about BSQ and Guild battles has nothing to do with randomly built up teams fighting in 2 different arenas.

 

Otherwise I agree with what Coolsam says and that it's no use in changing any classes, maps etc.

 

The only possible way to remove BSQ runners would be to create a whole new gamemode that involves running as little as possible to gain as many points as possible, Which in my opinion would be super boring to play...


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Posted 31 July 2016 - 01:40 PM

This is be your One warning: If you are caught Spawn Camping, Abusing Buffs, Merc'ing, Switching Sides Multiple times, and ANY other malicious behavior... you will be Suspended until further notice.  You know who you are.


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#8 eyes2kill

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:50 PM

Don't know why people always express their opinion as if been righteous and quoting others that are just as faulty as they are.

 

Therefore, no need to answer ridiculous selfie quotes with lack of supporting materials.

 

Back to BSQ answer, Agitedosu many people has tried to banned for those exact malicious behaviors, but they have not been banned not once that I know off, based on many report from in game friends FACT.

 

General behaviors forum over all:

 

Reminder, just because a subject was covered before does not mean anything was fixed due to old managers in game and we always get new people in game management who seems to care most than others. I have not seen more changes and the game play better since POPCORN started to develop for it.

 

Facts are things seems to change when a lot of people in the community complaint about the same issues over and over, but some of you rather kiss -------  :p_love: to sound friendly and not get to the real issues. I'm not a rebel, nor I care for bs answer that does not help the community. If an individual is here to troll or to sound good to their peers, let me tell you now, no one cares.


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Posted 01 August 2016 - 01:06 AM

Malicious behaviour can be everything. Could also be running 24/7.
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Posted 01 August 2016 - 06:17 AM

Don't know why people always express their opinion as if been righteous and quoting others that are just as faulty as they are.

 

Therefore, no need to answer ridiculous selfie quotes with lack of supporting materials.

 

Back to BSQ answer, Agitedosu many people has tried to banned for those exact malicious behaviors, but they have not been banned not once that I know off, based on many report from in game friends FACT.

 

General behaviors forum over all:

 

Reminder, just because a subject was covered before does not mean anything was fixed due to old managers in game and we always get new people in game management who seems to care most than others. I have not seen more changes and the game play better since POPCORN started to develop for it.

 

Facts are things seems to change when a lot of people in the community complaint about the same issues over and over, but some of you rather kiss -------  :p_love: to sound friendly and not get to the real issues. I'm not a rebel, nor I care for bs answer that does not help the community. If an individual is here to troll or to sound good to their peers, let me tell you now, no one cares.

 

The times in which this subject was covered before and now have had no changes in moderation over players both in game and in forums. The CMs and VMs representing DS at those times are the same as now and the Support Staff who've investigated these matters are mostly the same names. If you've seen zero results then you're either not providing the proper evidence or reporting for the wrong reasons. Staff takes time to investigate before giving results. Despite assumptions they don't flail the ban-hammer wildly they actually take their time and in a game with a playerbase this small and an okay growth rate that's a good thing.

 

Don't think no one here is concerned with real issues. You don't know whether or not they might actually be contributing to community through assisting others and hard work to help our small development squad find issues in game as well. Even players that, like you have to others, I've had entire photo-albums of screenshots for evidence against I later see providing bug-fix reports and giving proper advice and care for the game. Not as a sort of facade to prevent punishment but because they see these real issues. Just because a supposed handful of players wanna grief you doesn't mean the entire community is two-faced and doesn't care.

 

Malicious behaviour can be everything. Could also be running 24/7.

 

If that's true then Battlesquares would all be dead-empty and you can screenshot island-hopping too much to punish a guild.

 

I dunno what they taught you in <Insert Questionable Server Name here> but for the years the BattleSquare has existed in every official server there was you'll very likely (Despite assumptions towards how certain regions react to it) have seen flat-out run-stalling flags. Having seen how this game-mode works from it's original release. Players left and right have done everything to stall for points because of the flaw that stall-tactics are promoted. Because one player lost a 1vs1 Bsq to a runner doesn't mean we need to hunt everyone who does it down. I witnessed a BattleSquare with two runners, equal flags and speed, on both teams using cakes/capsules even. Neither of them were punished or reported despite players complaints. Even the whole Perm-capped character thing existed long before Battlesquare as a form of PvP some players with a lot of time/money did on the side. (You'd never believe I knew a Perm level 30 back in THQ'ICE and a short-ways into WarpPortal before he quit).

 

Frowned Upon but Beatable (Running, Healing whether items or abilities) vs Unintended, Malicious, and Gamebreaking (Bug-Abuse, Alt-logging, Intentional stacking of teams, Super-launching to unreachable location) I suggest you need to learn a difference.

The times in which this subject was covered before and now have had no changes in moderation over players both in game and in forums. The CMs and VMs representing DS at those times are the same as now and the Support Staff who've investigated these matters are mostly the same names.


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Posted 01 August 2016 - 06:40 AM

Melicious Behaviour is so meaningless. For other player might attacking spawn as normal as running for you, Sam. Its a stupid "rule" which got way too much room for interpretations. Who decides what melicious behaviour is and what not and is it always the same person who decides that or different ones?

 

"I dunno what they taught you in <Insert Questionable Server Name here>" yee, gg. come up with that again. I think the server i played before was named Dragonica but nvm. People actually used to pvp there. Actually with a very good average gameplay lmao.

 

Its called battle square and not breeze run. I dont think that they mean running with "battle". Its not amde to avoid a fight/ 1o1 its made for fighting. People who are abusing movementspeed to avoid a fight in BattleSquare should be punished, easy.

 

I dont get how and why "pvper" support ppl who are avoiding battles in game modes which are made for battleing. Seems like many ppl here got cool feet when it comes to pvp.


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Posted 01 August 2016 - 08:28 AM

If you wish to report an exploit or a player breaking Dragon Saga rules, please send me a PM, or write a ticket in to our support team. Players who post exploits or ways to abuse the game on the forums will be suspended as this is against the forums terms of use. Calling out players on the forums is also against the forums terms of use. As this is the direction this thread has gone, I will be locking this thread at this time. 


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