-Aspersio scrolls will be removed from Classic tournaments.
-Pets allowed on both servers
-Upcoming event order (rest of the year): 1v1 champ/sura, following month 5v5, following month 1v1 any class, end of the year 5v5
-Xellie and I can do most Friday nights at 6:00pm server time to do events. Will this be discussed later on for all upcoming events. Hopefully this will be inclusive to people in the East with timezone differences.
-Assumptio will be disabled on both Classic and Renewal tournaments for sura/champ ones specifically. See Xellie's post for more information
The Chaos/Thor restrictions will be as followed
Tournament Skill, Item, and Gear restrictions
-PvP reductions
-Knockback enabled
-No transformation scrolls
-No god items
-No MVP cards
-No outside buffs*
-Crescent Elbow will be disabled
-No Bellum Claw
-No Silversmith Bracelet
-No solidifying garments (randle card)
-No Asumpt Scrolls
-No Fenrir Scrolls
-No Mercs
*To check players on outside buffs, we will be doing this quick process between every single round.
1. Enter the arena
2. Double click on a Poison Bottle (if you don't have them, I'll sell them for 1,000,000 zeny each)
3. We will resurrect you
4. Match begins after a 20 second delay (during this time you can rebuff, with skills/gears/consumables that are allowed)
Classic restrictions
Tournament Skill, Item, and Gear restrictions
-PvP reductions
-Knockback enabled
-No god items
-No MVP cards
-No outside buffs*
-No Asumpt scrolls
-No Asperio scrolls
-No mercs
*To check players on outside buffs, we will be doing this quick process between every single round.
1. Enter the arena
2. Double click on a Poison Bottle (if you don't have them, I'll sell them for 1,000,000 zeny each)
3. We will resurrect you
4. Match begins after a 20 second delay (during this time you can rebuff, with skills/gears/consumables that are allowed)
Regarding the "only sura skills" or "only champion skills". As I have pointed out before, there are many items that are generally accepted by everyone. This would be things like hide. To end this conversation on a positive/funny note, here is a hide dodge training video featuring me (The Novice) training Xellie on how to hide!
Discussion of restrictions for Classic/Thor/Chaos champ/sura events is now over. Feel free to discuss thoughts on what restrictions/limits you think would be needed to run a balanced 5v5. Thank you all for the feedback. Wish you all luck in your practice and participation! Looking forward to hosting this event with Xelliepie.
We have lots of upcoming events and tournaments! Here is the full list, up until October 2016!
All events will begin at 4:00pm server time and 7:00pm Eastern.
Notes: We have taken a lot of feedback from many different people on how to improve. Here is a list of things we will be improving....
-Emblems working on maps
-No transformation scrolls
-A balanced tournament format (i.e. no gods/mvps and community decisions on skills to disable)
-Additional interviews with participants
-Long term prizes (still in development)
-Ideas for incorporating other aspects of the game into the tournaments (still in development)
-Different formats to keep things interesting
-Consistency and transparency (important values to me, personally)
-Most important, positive vibes! We all love this game and want to see it become more populated, let's keep this in mind
Goal of this thread:
-Discuss thoughts and ideas
-Talk about anything related to the tournaments
-Cheer for your favorite teams or recruit for your team!
Also important to note for all of the Sura and Champion players! There is enough time that a Sura on Chaos could make a Sura on Thors to participate in the event as well and vice versa!
The dates are off and it is for more then just the Classic server......
We should get all the list of gears, consumables, scrolls etc that is NOT allowed a week before the tournament. So then what ever is not listed means allowed xD
For classic, the only sign up/post with information is for the 5v5, which has no restrictions on anything.
Future classic events will, for example the champ vs champ. I'll post that sign up the day after the 5v5 tournament so there will be less confusion, hopefully.
If you have classic feedback for restrictions please let us know. I'm more familiar with classic then renewal, but it's a tournament for you and I'd like to take your thoughts into consideration.
To incorprate other aspects of the game into the tourney, maybe you could do a race to 99 thing on Classic where you make a character from scratch with no gear borrowed from any other characters or accounts, starting 5 days out from the event date, and you can only use what drops during the grind + NPC gear at the tourney, refined to +7 max. Obviously no gods, MVPs or minis due to the nature of it, but also no cash shop gear since that sort of stuff doesn't "drop". A bit of a silly and fun kind of thing that allows new players to participate just as easily as vets.
That was what I have came up with so far for PVM/PVP events. I think it would be hard to pull off, because we would have to trust the players in order to not give themselves a crazy good advantage. For example, I can 1-99 trans in less then 2 hours (not including quest time) on Classic. I'm not sure how to do it other then trust.
I know you didn't mention about any banned shadow gears but is the unfozen set allowed?
This was posted in the wrong thread. I kind of agree to disable unfrozen shadow set for the Sura vs Sura due to limited availibility. Thoughts on this from anybody? Any other gears that I may have missed?
This is what exists so far for Sura vs Sura limitations.
Tournament Skill, Item, and Gear restrictions
-PvP reductions
-Knockback enabled
-No transformation scrolls
-No god items
-No MVP cards
-No outside buffs*
-Crescent Elbow will be disabled
-No Bellum Claw
-No Silversmith Bracelet
-No solidifying garments (randle card)
*To check players on outside buffs, we will be doing this quick process between every single round.
1. Enter the arena
2. Double click on a Poison Bottle (if you don't have them, I'll sell them for 1,000,000 zeny each)
3. We will resurrect you
4. Match begins after a 20 second delay (during this time you can rebuff, with skills/gears/consumables that are allowed)
Anytime . I don't know anything about Thor's atmosphere or the playerbase there, so slightly hesitant on going hard on 5v5 ect there. What I do know is everyone loves Sura vs Sura and something for a Sura to brag about. Was a recent thought to include Thor to be honest, but hopefully I'll get to meet some people there and see what interests that playerbase ^_^
PM you the character that they're making with a screenie of creation or something, and a list of things they find as they play. If they want to use something that dropped, ask them to provide a screenie of when it dropped. No screenie and the item will be deemed illegal.
And ban items that drop from popular leeching spots. No DG, Thors or Odin's gear or cards. ID3, AL3 and Noobies should be fine since nothing really OP drops from there.
Aside from that, yes it's entirely based on trust. That's why I said fun and never used the word competitive xD
It doesn't really matter how they level either. Most people are probably just going to leech anyway. So long as they're capped by the tourney date. You can ask Camp to check character creation time to make sure they're legitimately new. Assuming the PM thing thing you'll have a premade list of characters for him to crosscheck.
Can we have a just a pvp tournament instead of just sura. Bring a char and we'll see who the best is. also, we could find out what the best class for pvp is. I think we would need limit classes like SC and would need to exclude char like ninja, but would be pretty fun.
Can we have a just a pvp tournament instead of just sura. Bring a char and we'll see who the best is. also, we could find out what the best class for pvp is. I think we would need limit classes like SC and would need to exclude char like ninja, but would be pretty fun.
Sura vs Sura stems from the easiest single class that can 1v1 eachother. My experience with champions is that many of them think they are the best, so it made sense to find out who the best was under this circumstance.
However, for the next 1v1 tournament we can have an open ended 1v1 any class. That sounds like a lot of fun!
a draft/pick/ban with no same classes rule maybe
Neko and I designed a format for this before! It was team oriented (3v3), it looked amazing. Wouldn't be possible, except on sakary and would require loads of effort explaining it to people if they haven't experienced anything like it before.
Sura vs Sura stems from the easiest single class that can 1v1 eachother. My experience with champions is that many of them think they are the best, so it made sense to find out who the best was under this circumstance.
However, for the next 1v1 tournament we can have an open ended 1v1 any class. That sounds like a lot of fun!
Neko and I designed a format for this before! It was team oriented (3v3), it looked amazing. Wouldn't be possible, except on sakary and would require loads of effort explaining it to people if they haven't experienced anything like it before.
I feel bad for Thor having the time at 4pm server time (7am GMT+8), in which only very few Suras can join (probably only those outside Asia and possibly Australia can join) and it's even in the day when they need to enter school or work . And for everyone in Thor can join and/or watch the event, I suggest to make the time (at least in Thor) be chosen between 3-8am server time (6-11pm GMT+8) or a little earlier.
You guys should host a 1v1 open to all classes as an event in the future. It would be interesting to see different classes duke it out for the best of the best.
BTW thanks for hosting these. I now have something to look forward to on RO as a competitive player. (rip usrc)
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. And for everyone in Thor can join and/or watch the event, I suggest to make the time (at least in Thor) be chosen between 3-8am server time (6-11pm GMT+8) or a little earlier.
