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#1 FreedomXX

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 04:28 AM

At what point is Crimson Dagger strictly better than RWC in terms of ATT and M.ATT? (Taking into account of RWC Accessories and % damage from the knife)

 

RWC Knife relies heavily on the RWC Accessories, so it would be nice to have a dagger that doesn't.

 

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#2 Ashuckel

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 04:46 AM

Assuming lvl 175

+15 crimson knife:
396~493 atk
187~267 matk

+15 rwc knife +ring/pendant
370~460 atk +10%atk
325~405 matk +10%matk

Crimson is at its maximum potential at +15, bellow that it gets less effective per upgrade than rwc

So unless you get it to +15, rwc knife will trumph it all the time, even at +15 crimson is just slightly better just on atk for the extra slot.
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Posted 22 August 2016 - 04:52 AM

Assuming lvl 175

+15 crimson knife:
396~493 atk
187~267 matk

+15 rwc knife +ring/pendant
370~460 atk +10%atk
325~405 matk +10%matk

Crimson is at its maximum potential at +15, bellow that it gets less effective per upgrade than rwc

So unless you get it to +15, rwc knife will trumph it all the time, even at +15 crimson is just slightly better just on atk for the extra slot.

Freedom of the accessory slots could potentially make the difference too


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 05:01 AM

For pure damage, no with the gears we have so far. If it is something else such as aspd, utility, etc. sure

Edit: I want Valkyre Dagger[4] :(

Edited by Ashuckel, 22 August 2016 - 05:02 AM.

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 05:12 AM

Isnt RWC set bonus not working if u use slotted accessories?

Not sure of it. So dont go on troll over it >_<


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 05:13 AM

Isnt RWC set bonus not working if u use slotted accessories?

Not sure of it. So dont go on troll over it >_<

 

It doesn't if it's slotted


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Posted 24 August 2016 - 12:38 AM

Edit: I want Valkyre Dagger[4] :(

 

What is Valkyre Dagger? I cant find any info about it


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Posted 24 August 2016 - 01:10 AM

rwc combo perfect for oboro kagero magic
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Posted 24 August 2016 - 01:44 AM

rwc combo perfect for oboro kagero magic


Knife[4] is stronger :S
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Posted 24 August 2016 - 04:22 PM

yah and knife also has 4 slots more slots more zakudam cool alternative for main gooch[4]
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Posted 25 August 2016 - 05:48 AM

Tell me more about this gooch and the 4 slots there-in. 


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Posted 26 August 2016 - 06:26 PM

For rwc knife attack bonus with accessory. Does it provide more attack if I use 2 non carded rings? Or it's same as 1 ring?
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Posted 26 August 2016 - 08:14 PM

Would a +15 crimson katar w/ 2x hunter fly be more viable than a +15 thanatos katar?


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Posted 29 August 2016 - 10:07 AM

For rwc knife attack bonus with accessory. Does it provide more attack if I use 2 non carded rings? Or it's same as 1 ring?

 

Combos only work once, so you'd only get the basic stuff from the 2nd ring (fs/atk% enchants and natural 1% atk). 

 

@Deafice, no, +15 Thana > +15 Crimson katar (though much, much, much harder to get to +15, not that either one is any where near easy or cheap). I don't know what you mean by "viable" precisely, but if you're asking which is stronger, then Thana wins. 

 

Though if you had a +15 weapon and put a HF card in it, I'd hunt you down and beat you with a pillow case full of quarters. 


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 07:57 PM

Combos only work once, so you'd only get the basic stuff from the 2nd ring (fs/atk% enchants and natural 1% atk). 

 

@Deafice, no, +15 Thana > +15 Crimson katar (though much, much, much harder to get to +15, not that either one is any where near easy or cheap). I don't know what you mean by "viable" precisely, but if you're asking which is stronger, then Thana wins. 

 

Though if you had a +15 weapon and put a HF card in it, I'd hunt you down and beat you with a pillow case full of quarters. 

 

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