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#1 zx56vb

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Posted 28 August 2016 - 07:24 AM

Looks like there are still this kind of cards in the game?


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 11:16 AM

If it was, there wouldnt be dupes lol
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Posted 28 August 2016 - 01:45 PM

WP's last efforts was the two extended Maintenances that we had few months ago where they had a huge Database scan and sent the information to kRO

But this still doesn't solve the problem from its roots and all that can be done is to be patient about it


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 03:56 PM

OK, I am thinking about a possible solution,
here is the example for Tao card <>:
 
Tao Gunka Card [Armor]   Item ID# 4302 (Tao_Gunka_Card) Type Card Class Armor Card Buy 20z Sell 10z Weight 1 Pre/Suffix High Risk   Description Maximum HP + 100%
DEF - 50, MDEF - 50 Item Script
{ bonus bMaxHPrate,100; bonus bDef,-50; bonus bMdef,-50; },{},{}
Dropped By
 
I know this is not correctItem ID and description  for IRO, but it is ok,and I think many ppl know that GM could create any item in game by using Item ID, so at least we know that each item has corresponding ID, and same item should have same ID, 
So if GM can change the item script in server for all Tao card,they can simply disable the function and name for all existing Tao card in game, something like
 
Name:Sealed Tao card,
description: maxmium HP+0%
 
What they can do next is add an announcement that all players with disabled Tao cand can send GM team tickets to exchange for new Tao card with new item ID and correction script.
 
This will force all players to check their MVP cards and disable all duped card in game.
 
Not sure if this is possible, but if it works, it would be nice : D


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 04:12 PM

Drop it on the ground, if someone else picks it up, it's a dupe. If you pick it up, drop it again later to check again. 


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 04:16 PM

^ You gotta do it infront of someone too, I'll help you out! 


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 04:25 PM

if you can drop a tao mvp card.


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 06:21 PM

:heh:  :heh:  :heh:


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 08:34 PM

Drop it on the ground, if someone else picks it up, it's a dupe. If you pick it up, drop it again later to check again. 

 

are you saying that duped cards are not account bound even if its MVP card?

 

or you are just joking?


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 08:38 PM

Anyone know if you can report on other peoples duped item? Someones been trying to sell me a duped mvp for months lol.
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Posted 28 August 2016 - 09:07 PM

OK, I am thinking about a possible solution,
here is the example for Tao card <>:
 
Tao Gunka Card [Armor]   Item ID# 4302 (Tao_Gunka_Card) Type Card Class Armor Card Buy 20z Sell 10z Weight 1 Pre/Suffix High Risk   Description Maximum HP + 100%
DEF - 50, MDEF - 50 Item Script
{ bonus bMaxHPrate,100; bonus bDef,-50; bonus bMdef,-50; },{},{}
Dropped By
 
I know this is not correctItem ID and description  for IRO, but it is ok,and I think many ppl know that GM could create any item in game by using Item ID, so at least we know that each item has corresponding ID, and same item should have same ID, 
So if GM can change the item script in server for all Tao card,they can simply disable the function and name for all existing Tao card in game, something like
 
Name:Sealed Tao card,
description: maxmium HP+0%
 
What they can do next is add an announcement that all players with disabled Tao cand can send GM team tickets to exchange for new Tao card with new item ID and correction script.
 
This will force all players to check their MVP cards and disable all duped card in game.
 
Not sure if this is possible, but if it works, it would be nice : D

 

You do realise it will be easier for the GMs to just check each MvP card individually instead of forcing all legit and non-legit owners of MvPs to experience this inconvenience, right?

 

There are two reasons for not doing this though

1) Will take a HUGE amount of effort and resource and will probably cause hundreds of mishaps due to mistakes in the checking process (Removing Legit cards and forcing their players to spend months trying to prove it's real)

2) After all that is sorted, nothing will change! Because the main cause of duplicates is still unidentified so more duplicates will pop up from here and there


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Posted 28 August 2016 - 09:42 PM

Anyone know if you can report on other peoples duped item? Someones been trying to sell me a duped mvp for months lol.

 

i tried doing this before and this is what they said:

Hello, 
 
Thank you for contacting the WarpPortal Support Team.
 
We can certainly look into this situation. However, please be aware we're unable to provide information regarding other accounts for privacy and security reasons. The best method of confirming validity of cards would be to contact the seller and both parties submit tickets requesting validation of items. We strongly suggest doing this before trades.
 
If you have anymore questions feel free to write in again and I'll do my best to assist you.
 
Sincerely,
 
WarpPortal Support Team

 

basically, "we're too lazy to check unless you're actually going through with a trade"


Edited by beaupoem, 28 August 2016 - 09:43 PM.

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Posted 28 August 2016 - 11:00 PM

nothing sad to begin the day when u read a support ticket of mvp card trade got cancel due illegal activity while u look forward for it after winning the auction


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Posted 29 August 2016 - 12:57 AM

You do realise it will be easier for the GMs to just check each MvP card individually instead of forcing all legit and non-legit owners of MvPs to experience this inconvenience, right?

 

There are two reasons for not doing this though

1) Will take a HUGE amount of effort and resource and will probably cause hundreds of mishaps due to mistakes in the checking process (Removing Legit cards and forcing their players to spend months trying to prove it's real)

2) After all that is sorted, nothing will change! Because the main cause of duplicates is still unidentified so more duplicates will pop up from here and there

Only focus on most popular MVP cars is enough, I dont think there are thousands of MVP cards in game,  this might be hard at the begining,

and GM can do this maybe every 3 months, each time they can disable 1 or 2 kinds of MVP cards, and I think under such situation, nobody wanna buy duped card, because you might waste money after 3 month.

So the key point is to let ppl aware that it is not "safe" to buy those duped card and hide in your storage forever.


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Posted 29 August 2016 - 01:05 AM

Only focus on most popular MVP cars is enough, I dont think there are thousands of MVP cards in game,  this might be hard at the begining,

and GM can do this maybe every 3 months, each time they can disable 1 or 2 kinds of MVP cards, and I think under such situation, nobody wanna buy duped card, because you might waste money after 3 month.

So the key point is to let ppl aware that it is not "safe" to buy those duped card and hide in your storage forever.

Actually if you think ALL MvPs then there are more than thousands

 

GMs already take their time in verifying singular cards before trades are done and like beaupoem has stated, they don't really have the time to spend checking on cards that are not being traded at the moment

 

Duped MvPs are rarely truly traded anyway and when they are, they are usually added into gears and given to friend/other account with no zeny involved. Because if somebody tries to sell an MvP the GMs will catch it during verification and the trade will not be proceeded with

 

You're probably right in that GMs can scan through the more high-end MvPs regularly without announcing that what they are doing. Because if they do, the people owning the duped MvPs will simply just sell them to NPCs before the scan and then re-dup again after the scan lolz


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Posted 29 August 2016 - 01:17 AM

Actually if you think ALL MvPs then there are more than thousands

 

GMs already take their time in verifying singular cards before trades are done and like beaupoem has stated, they don't really have the time to spend checking on cards that are not being traded at the moment

 

Duped MvPs are rarely truly traded anyway and when they are, they are usually added into gears and given to friend/other account with no zeny involved. Because if somebody tries to sell an MvP the GMs will catch it during verification and the trade will not be proceeded with

 

You're probably right in that GMs can scan through the more high-end MvPs regularly without announcing that what they are doing. Because if they do, the people owning the duped MvPs will simply just sell them to NPCs before the scan and then re-dup again after the scan lolz

Hopefully Gravity could do something, IDK if yhey can fix it so nobody can dupe items anymore.


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 07:39 PM

I don't get why they could just have it like RO2 in which when a player obtains an MVP card, it's announced to the server. They do it with god items. Why not cards?


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:01 AM

I don't get why they could just have it like RO2 in which when a player obtains an MVP card, it's announced to the server. They do it with god items. Why not cards?

 

Totally agree. I also think there should be a quarentine period after a MVP card is dropped, and in that time, the same MVP wouldn't drop his card, to keep them rare, and there could be an anouncement board in all major cities saying which MVP cards are quarentined and until when. But this would be more complex to implement.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:53 AM

in woe and PVP, years ago, we said oh look that player has a mvp card, now we say wtf he doesnt have even one mvp card. lmao


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 11:07 AM

in woe and PVP, years ago, we said oh look that player has a mvp card, now we say wtf he doesnt have even one mvp card. lmao

 

In WOE: "Hey I have two more taos to lend out, anyone wants?" No response. *Gives tao to maestros*


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 11:11 AM

I don't get why they could just have it like RO2 in which when a player obtains an MVP card, it's announced to the server. They do it with god items. Why not cards?

 

That not a bad idea


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