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#1 raranz25

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 12:23 AM

I would like open up on the face runes being dropped on a toon that can't use it. I've been doing dungeons a lot and luckily I got face runes on my toons. But the hard part is, I can't use  it on my raider because it got the aoe range, skill range rune and my champ got the healing face runes. Can we, if possible, let face runes be not char locked? 


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 01:18 AM

Nope, NPC them. 


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 01:31 AM

What does it mean when you say NPC them? Like sell them? What will it give if given I'll sell them?


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 01:45 AM

Either nothing or zulie. Either way they're worthless to that character. 


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 06:24 AM

I would like open up on the face runes being dropped on a toon that can't use it. I've been doing dungeons a lot and luckily I got face runes on my toons. But the hard part is, I can't use  it on my raider because it got the aoe range, skill range rune and my champ got the healing face runes. Can we, if possible, let face runes be not char locked? 

This now gives challenge for you to grind more to get the needed rune for your char. Grind and grind until you succeed.  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 07:28 AM

I think what he's asking for is to be able to sell the duplicates he gets. Which is understandable as duplicate runes are literally a wasted drop reward. This issue is if you make one rune able to be traded and sold, you end up with people saying it's not fair, why should one rune be able to be sold and not the others. 

 

I think the proper solution is you should do a quest to get a specific rune. Instead of them being on the drop table, taking of loot rolls, you can intentionally get one rune that you want, and not worry about duplicates wasting your loot rolls. I thought this was going to happen with the King medallions, but that hasn't happened yet. Seems like this issue was overlooked yet again when it comes to the runes. 


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 01:18 PM

I think what he's asking for is to be able to sell the duplicates he gets. Which is understandable as duplicate runes are literally a wasted drop reward. This issue is if you make one rune able to be traded and sold, you end up with people saying it's not fair, why should one rune be able to be sold and not the others. 

 

I think the proper solution is you should do a quest to get a specific rune. Instead of them being on the drop table, taking of loot rolls, you can intentionally get one rune that you want, and not worry about duplicates wasting your loot rolls. I thought this was going to happen with the King medallions, but that hasn't happened yet. Seems like this issue was overlooked yet again when it comes to the runes. 

I have played a game before that after we killed a boss a window will appear and will show you the available loots. Then players on that party will choose, if one item have more than 1 player chose it then the item will be rolled to those players. So the strategy that we do is before we enter the dungeon or start the killing we will ask everyone on what they desire to get on the boss loot.


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 07:20 PM

Those systems are terrible. There has been many games like that and the issue that crops up is people ninja looting, otherwise known as people rolling for items they don't need or already have, but want so they can sell. This results in everyone rolling for the mot expensive item even if they don't need it, and the players who legitimately could use the item not getting it.

 

A lot of games moved away from that system because it's frustrating and irritating, causes drama and results in a less enjoyable experience. Which is why they now have personal loot. Everyone get their own default roll that unique to them, and no one else can try to lay claim to. 


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 12:19 AM

It's not for the reason to sell but it would help to give it to the char that needs the stat but yeah, if ever people would tend to sell them too >.< hmmm but it might help it it'll be account locked? than char? for example you got 1 account that has fs,champ,raider in it. At least if ever, you get the healing rune, you can level it on your fs? Would that be a better proposal? You can't sell it but at least it one alt on your account could use it


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 02:45 AM

Account Locks are viable yes. 


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Posted 05 September 2016 - 04:50 PM

I hope this could be heard. At least this could help those who have alts on their account


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Posted 06 September 2016 - 03:42 AM

Relaxing the item restriction on Paradigm Runes to Account Locked is something I have considered, however it will require changes to how the locking mechanic on runes works while equipped and how item restrictions are prioritized by their perceived "strictness", otherwise you would be able to trade Character Locked equipment between characters on the account while the Paradigm Rune is equipped (which is obviously not intended behavior).

 

Unfortunately it's not a trivial update to make, so I can't give you a timeframe on when it could be worked on.


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Posted 06 September 2016 - 06:37 AM

You could also just make them some type of a traded item to NPC's that gives higher grade refine materials or those new stones you added. 


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Posted 07 September 2016 - 02:58 AM

Relaxing the item restriction on Paradigm Runes to Account Locked is something I have considered, however it will require changes to how the locking mechanic on runes works while equipped and how item restrictions are prioritized by their perceived "strictness", otherwise you would be able to trade Character Locked equipment between characters on the account while the Paradigm Rune is equipped (which is obviously not intended behavior).

 

Unfortunately it's not a trivial update to make, so I can't give you a timeframe on when it could be worked on.

 

Yes I saw that once you put the runes on the acce/gears it's locked together with the acce hence it'll be char locked instead of char bound. But yeah, we hoping soonish it'll (face runes) be possible on the account locked matter. It would be more useful to the alts on it. Since the dusts,ore,clusters are now account locked. 


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