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[Handersen]

Having 1 str or 1 atk let say if I have a gear one will give 40 str but the other give 40 atk which one will give advantage and why?
And this having 1int or 1matk
Please give me explanation why.

Thank you

[fuyukikun]

Lets say you are level 1, has 1 total STR, 1 total DEX, and 1 total LUK and use a weapon with base atk of 100 and upgrade level of 0.

with 40 eatk gear, your total atk is 100+(1/200*100)+40+status atk = 140,5 + (2x((blevel/4)+(dex/5)+(luk/3)+str))) = 140 + 2x(0+0+0+1) = 142,5 atk

With 40 str, your total atk is 100+(41/200*100)+status atk = 120,5 + (2x((blevel/4)+(dex/5)+(luk/3)+str))) = 120,5 + 2x(0+0+0+41) = 202,5 atk

 

so, STR > ATK

Edited by fuyukikun, 06 September 2016 - 07:12 PM.

[Nirvanna21]

since it is a GEAR, NOT A WEAPON. So that 40 eatk is not affected by str. 

but in case if it is a weapon with base watk of 40, 1 STR will give extra atk of (1/200*40 = 0,2 atk). Also 1 str will give 2 status atk. 

So, 1 STR > 1 atk. whatever the case is.

 

Unless you Ranged. :Y

[fuyukikun]

i rephrase the statement since i missed some points. 

about MATK, 1 Int = 1,5 MATK. So it is clear that INT > MATK

Edited by fuyukikun, 06 September 2016 - 07:13 PM.

[mildcontempt]

Each point of str gives you 1 status attack and an extra 0.5% of your weapon's base attack.

 

The answer "which is better" depends heavily on your weapon's base attack. To explain more than that, you'd need to understand the attack formula, for which there is a nice post by Dark Gazer. 

 

https://forums.warpp...p/#entry2289782

[Yugacky]

The weapon ATK you get from STR bonus will be reduced by size modifier. On the other hand, eATK will be fully applied. EDP won't be applied to sATK you get from STR but eATK. There is no clear answer without further information about your class, gears and stats.

[fuyukikun]

even with weapon with 0 base atk.

40 atk will raise final damage by 40

40 str will raise final damage by 80 due to status atk factor

[Handersen]

So which one is better for shadow weapon physical set which is atk+50 and atk to all +2% let say I'm a crit rk crushing strike
Or power set combo with critical set atk 40 crit +2% str +4

Edited by Handersen, 06 September 2016 - 07:31 PM.

[Yugacky]

even with weapon with 0 base atk.

40 atk will raise final damage by 40

40 str will raise final damage by 80 due to status atk factor

 

If you are on EDP, 40 eATK gives 160 ATK but 40 STR gives 80 sATK.

 

sATK is always Neutral element unless you use Mild wind.

 

But, in general 1str is better than 1atk most of cases if you are not GX.

[Yugacky]

So which one is better for shadow weapon physical set which is atk+50 and atk to all +2% let say I'm a crit gx
Or power set combo with critical set atk 40 crit +2% str +4

 

Critical shadow set and power set gives 50 atk. So, if you are comparing those two, crit+power set wins.

 

However Physical set + high refined elemental shadow armors does better against specific element.
 

[Handersen]

Critical shadow set and power set gives 50 atk. So, if you are comparing those two, crit+power set wins.

However Physical set + high refined elemental shadow armors does better against specific element.

So I'm guessing with crushing strike rk.
Physical set + cranial bloody set or
Power set with critical set and cranial bloody set

Power set will have a better damage output?

[Handersen]

Then which one is better for crushing strike rk
2x Pendant of maelstrom of mad berserker
Or
2x rwc ring with str +3 2x fs3 mad berserker
Or
2x rwc ring with str +3 atk 6% mad berserker?

[fuyukikun]

now...the question barrage is getting out of hand and already considered as spoonfeeding. can you count by yourself?

[mildcontempt]

Those last questions have been addressed by black cross in his phys RK guide.

[Handersen]

Those last questions have been addressed by black cross in his phys RK guide.

To much to read better to ask simple question and get simple answer xD

[WolfTri]

There's too many details to give a simple answer. Int always > matk because %Matk affects stat matk as well. But it's not that easy for atk, because the atk you get from str will not benefit from % Physical Damage gears. So in some cases flat Atk > Str. Also Str gives you bonus base weapon atk. So it will depend on 1) Your %atk modifier, 2) Your weapon's base atk, 3) total str 4) total atk

[mrricebox]

Are you serious? There's another person on the forums like dagger47???

[nara123]

Are you serious? There's another person on the forums like dagger47???

 

knife47 
 

[VModCinnamon]

Are you serious? There's another person on the forums like dagger47???

 

I am not going to remove that post but kindly drop it already, please.

[hotel]

spoonfeeding in 2016 LUL

[VModCinnamon]

To much to read better to ask simple question and get simple answer xD

 

Handersen, what you can do is to skim through the first post of said guide, if something is not clear then perhaps you can quote that portion and ask for a clarification here.

 

 

 

spoonfeeding in 2016 LUL

 

now...the question barrage is getting out of hand and already considered as spoonfeeding. can you count by yourself?

 

Ugh you two! Here's the deal, either link them "spoonfed community" a useful guide/post or move along. The spoon feeding term needs to wither away in my opinion, okay? Let's make the forums a friendlier place.

[havemybaby]

Then which one is better for crushing strike rk
2x Pendant of maelstrom of mad berserker
Or
2x rwc ring with str +3 2x fs3 mad berserker
Or
2x rwc ring with str +3 atk 6% mad berserker?

2x rwc ring with str+3 atk6% mad berserker.

this part actually isnt included in blackcross's guide.

CS heavily depend on your weapon refine level and total str. Enchant blade will barely affect its damage. Because of base atk of 2hsword, you will gain more atk with % than fs.

That being said, PoM is way cheaper than perfect enchant Rwc ring, can be shared between account, and better for basic crit atk including during frenzy.

[hotel]

censorship in 2016 LUL 

[Ashuckel]

lol srsly

[Yugacky]

So I'm guessing with crushing strike rk.
Physical set + cranial bloody set or
Power set with critical set and cranial bloody set

Power set will have a better damage output?

 

Each elemental shadow armor gives 6% ATK(at +10) to specific element.

If you know your opponent element, Physical set + crinial bloody set + elemental shadow armor such as Basis Shadow Armor(for neutral element) do better than power set + critical set + cranial bloody set.

 

Without elemental shadow armor, power set + critical set + cranial bloody set do better.