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[fuyukikun]

okay, now it's my sura's turn to level in NCT. Current level is 160, i got to 160 from 150 from doing bio4, so i dont have any experience using this class in NCT. What are good method to level there without gods and MVPs? is Flash Combo the only viable way?

This is my stats:

Str: 100

Int: 100

Vit: 120

Dex: 89

Agi and Luk: 1

 

My equips:

+9 RWH (AA carded)

Incubus BDM

Blood Sucker

+4 Malicious Thana Hammer

Fireproof Round Buckler

Evil Orlean's Gown

Variant Shoes

+9 Deviant HBP

2x Pendant of Maelstorm of Berserker

Shadows:

Goggles

Malicious Set

Physical Set

 

Consumables used:

Takoyaki

Trans Yellow

VIP buffs

 

With all of that, my TC damage is only 55k to big bells. I am to 2 shots there, so i need to pump my TC to 85k. But at the same time i want to be tanky and sustainable in terms of leeching.

Do you have any suggestion what to change? Please do not cite MVPs and gods.

 

Job level is still 37, only enough to max FC, TC and energy gain. no RD yet.

 

Thanks

[Ashuckel]

100 str, 130 vit, dex+luk for hit rate. Rest doesnt really matters

you aint gonna 2shots mobs at that lvl without popping str+vit foods, not with those leech gears.

Glorious Suits if you got one, or something with a generous boost on HP. If your Int end up to get lower you may want to wear dark blinder. 

[fuyukikun]

guess i will try using my +9 maestro turkey and glorious suit. hell i need to tank big bells dark attacks then, quite scary

[KamiKali]

Use:

Turkey

blood sucker

x2 Peco Peco Egg Robot Arm

Glorious suit

Cheap faceworm skin with vit and jejeling (try it out, if you don't like it then stick with HBP + Vairnats)

Verit / Matyr / Green Ferus Temporal Vit boots

 

try manual combo at times

 

your int is way too high, i prefer go high dex. you're also probably missing at time, use the hit+30 foods

Edited by KamiKali, 16 September 2016 - 09:27 PM.

[fuyukikun]

okay, i did mix and match borrowing friend's gear. i able to 2 shots em without gsuit, just turkey, thana weapon, temp boots and faceworm. but defensive-wise, i am kinda squishy and i need to do snap kite all the time.

soo...based on my playstyle, i guess i will stay with 3 shots but with sustainable leech for better survivality. thanks all the people who already give me advices

[Ashuckel]

Dont forget to pop the foods so you reach 2shotting point earlier

[fuyukikun]

with full food i can do 70k-ish. waiting for level 170ish, for more HP and skill modifier based on level. perhaps can 2 shots in 170ish

[Ashuckel]

I started to 2shot at around 160~162, using:

+9 vana
Dark blinder
Blood sucker
Glorious suits
+7 thana hammer[HF]
Penomena Round Buckler
+9 DR HBP
+9 Temp Vit[Green Ferus]
2x Bako Tattoo

+28 Phys/Malicious sets


VIP buffs, HP incs,+20 str/vit foods


You may wanna use Earth Shaker before and in between your FCs, that littlr amount of damage may be just what you need to finish mobs sometimes. It also has no cast delay

[hotel]

drop your int way down to like 30-50

[fuyukikun]

i used windmill to replace earth shaker task. often panic mode appears when you do FC on big mob, but the leech didnt proc, then your HP becomes red, and you snapping around like headless chicken

Edited by fuyukikun, 17 September 2016 - 06:48 AM.

[Sewasan]

i 2 shot them at 150ish with a setup like yours but a little bit cheaper, i use 120 str tho, but as you stated before and i check after that on the formula vit do better dmg, as people said before get a cheap vit GFSS and some temp vit with green ferus and you are done, i dont have jejeling on my GFSS but i have wakwak, Gsuit for armor and a fire proof bradium shield because mob is formless, for acc i use my RWC tho (i got very lucky with those i made it with spare points to get my MATK ones lmfao) you dont need sp potions mostly and maybe a couple of pots to survive, 300ish will be ok on emergency case, i dont use turkey hat i just use a +9 rideword and a succubus pet for extra hp leeching. Also dark blinder is a must to lvl there because of blind status.

 

At the end is all about snaping and avoid dmg on that way, i think using a sura means kiting a lot, at least that works for me, ES is good because have the chance to proc stun, wich means you receive less dmg.

 

About foods i use just eden buffs plus str foods (wich i have like a lot) and dex to get the perfect hit on big bells (cuz if not is a pain considering TC can actually miss).

 

I think i have a video on my signature spoiler , anyway i've been in a hiatus of RO lately, but now that there is spotlight i should give it a try again.

[fuyukikun]

windmill also stun.
btw my playstyle is not glass cannon and heavy kiter one, so i prefer to tank the mob. so i prefer to fill the card of my garment as defensive cards like DR or raydric rather than offensive like wakwak or jeje.

[Ashuckel]

if u use the setup i said, with those stats, you could be 2shotting already :v (And also very tanky and leeching all your hp/sp back)

Edited by Ashuckel, 17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM.

[Silvianna]

i use WPH and trans yellow but i keep eating blue herb faster than a goat in the juno field 

+9 mal thana hammer

+11 wakwak gfss / +9 dev FS Faw

and +7 temp vit ferus / +9 e.variant firelock

switch depends on the situation

vip buffs, tako, large hp and sp, minor biscuit and savage bb

 

i dont have RD as well, only rely on lv 5 Revitalize 

you can use manual combo but it's just so difficult for me because you need tank them for few seconds

not mention that 30% HP drain just meh

 

can you use offensive setup as FC build Sura?

120 str, +9temp Str bear's power, +9eddga  something like that, because i feel like i want to reset and invest in her

maybe renting a pair of Megingjards\

 

@sewasan

your 80kish TC was that using double beholder robot's arm / carga?

Edited by Silvianna, 17 September 2016 - 07:51 PM.

[Sewasan]

i use WPH and trans yellow but i keep eating blue herb faster than a goat in the juno field 

+9 mal thana hammer

+11 wakwak gfss / +9 dev FS Faw

and +7 temp vit ferus / +9 e.variant firelock

switch depends on the situation

vip buffs, tako, large hp and sp, minor biscuit and savage bb

 

i dont have RD as well, only rely on lv 5 Revitalize 

you can use manual combo but it's just so difficult for me because you need tank them for few seconds

not mention that 30% HP drain just meh

 

can you use offensive setup as FC build Sura?

120 str, +9temp Str bear's power, +9eddga  something like that, because i feel like i want to reset and invest in her

maybe renting a pair of Megingjards\

 

@sewasan

your 80kish TC was that using double beholder robot's arm / carga?

 

no, i was just using a +7 thana hammer with hunter fly xD, the setup i mentioned before was the one i was using to do over 80k on big bells, 2x RWC atk7% GFSS (cheap one with wakwak card) temporal str with green ferus, +9 rideword hat, dark blinder and bradium shield with penomena card, i was 155 when i was doing that dmg, also i was using succubus for more HP proc. and hp inc i think str and dex foods mostly for the hit thing and eden buffs
 

[Sewasan]

windmill also stun.
btw my playstyle is not glass cannon and heavy kiter one, so i prefer to tank the mob. so i prefer to fill the card of my garment as defensive cards like DR or raydric rather than offensive like wakwak or jeje.

 

Well yeah playstyle is really important, im more of the kind who likes to kite a lot (at least on sura) well on WL i dont like to get hit that often tbh so i think is like the same, but on sura i can snap wich is a huge advantage.
 

[Silvianna]

so.. umm tell me

which one is better , having high atk and moderate hp or having moderate atk but high hp???

[KamiKali]

Overall, it depends on how much HP you have and how much ATk you have for exact determination, but generally:

HP > ATK

 

but % Mods is REALLY important in damage.

[Silvianna]

   answered by one of my idols lol

 

now i feel special hahahh 

 

also thanks for explanation

[fuyukikun]

my Sura already 175 now thanks to NCT

I was 2 shotting since level 165 with this setup :

- Base Stats

Vit: 130

Str: 120

Int: 35

Agi: 1

Dex: 90

Luk: 30

 

- Equips

Head: +9 Turkey (Carat)

Mid: Dark Blinker

Low: Blood Sucker

Armor: +7 Hero Judgement Shawl (Bathory)

Weapon: +4 Thanatos Hammer (Hunter Fly)

Shield: Round Buckler (Penomena)

Shoes: Variant Shoes

Garment: +9 HBP (Deviling)

Accs: 2x Pendant of Maelstorm (Gold scaraba)

Costume: +12 Malicious Set, +12 Physical Set

 

- Buffs

Incubus Pet

+7 VIP buff

Blessing

Inc Agi

Gentle Touch Energy Gain

Takoyaki

Minor Brisket

Increase HP Large Potion

Pumpkins as healing item

Light blue pots in case SP leech doesnt proc (rarely happen)

 

At 165, my tiger cannon does 79-81k dmg

at 175 it does 92-95k dmg

 

Even at 79k dmg tiger cannon, it still able to 2 shots, since i got helped by Earth Shaker which deals 4k dmg. So combined aoe damage in 2 shots become: 4k + 79k + 4k + 79k = 166k dmg (more since there are additional damage from sky blow, dragon combo and fallen empire suffered by the target)

Also, with the setup, i am tanky, able to do suitable damage (since i plan to 2 shots, so i dont aim for max dmg, but minimum of 83k damage per shot) and have good HP/SP leech

Edited by fuyukikun, 26 September 2016 - 10:44 PM.

[Silvianna]

is it possible to one shot them? 

lets say with a pair of megs or maybe 2x pecopeco robot or maybe both

but no Tao

 

Edited by Silvianna, 26 September 2016 - 11:48 PM.

[fuyukikun]

use +20 str food, see the difference of dmg. then times that difference by 4 to emulate 2 megs.

[Sewasan]

is think ka10 said that with megs and tao you can one shot them, not sure without it because i dont have tao and i dont have 2 megs to test it lul, and congrats Fuyuki, also i dont know, i keep getting better numbers than Fuyuki on a low sura, i stack more atk tho, and well, i dont have access to tao or whatsoever (using a gsuit) so mostly getting moderate HP with high atk is the way to go for me at least.

[fuyukikun]

the gsuit wins. i dont use it coz i dont have it, and lazy to make one with 840 OPBs. moreover HP is more reactive to the dmg than atk, so 20% more HP is really a gamechanger. but of course if you able to lift your atk also, it will be better. another reason i dont use gsuit, coz i cant put bathory card on it. Since i use deviling, big bells dark attack will wreck me up. Also my setup is more to defensive sustainable setup. Feel free to adjust the setup to your playstyle.

Edited by fuyukikun, 27 September 2016 - 06:51 AM.

[KamiKali]

is it possible to one shot them? 

lets say with a pair of megs or maybe 2x pecopeco robot or maybe both

but no Tao

 

You're welcome ^^
I know for a fact that it's possible to one-shot without a tao.

Peco Peco Egg Robot Arm would be the best weapon, Glorious Suit, and Meg would be the basic things you need for this.  To boost damage further you would need Temp Vit, Giant Faceworm skin, and if that is not enough, Turkey on Head.

 

Once you reach around level 160, you should be oneshotting. Like what others have said, use +20 vit and str foods, HP Increase. I also would recommend using Honey and Sesame Pastries to boost flee and hit.

 

Edit: - Oh and use Bloody Murderer trans candy for that 1k HP boost

Edited by KamiKali, 27 September 2016 - 06:57 AM.